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Happy birthday Robert E. Lee
Canada Free Press ^
| 01/17/19
| Calvin Johnson
Posted on 01/17/2019 8:15:01 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
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To: robowombat
See how many glaring errors you can pick out. Second glaring error. A quill pen? Really?
To: circlecity
Lincoln once asked his generals why they could not capture Lee. One general answered:” Capture him? First, we’d have to go up a steep Hill. Then march down a Longstreet. And then, we’d have to jump over a Stonewall, just to engage him.”
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:03:55 AM PST
by
NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
To: BlueLancer; All
Yes, Grant arrived dressed in his usual service dress of a private soldier with shoulder straps sewn on. Lee had a dress uniform in his baggage and arrived carefully groomed. The difference is often noted. One point I believe to be true. Lee did remember meeting Grant in Mexico, he had a very good memory for names and faces. He wasn't stiffing Grant, its just that he wasn't up for a hour or so stroll down old army memory lane on this the worst day of his life. I also suspect Grant might be the unknown infantry officer who saved Lee's life at Molino del Rey by shooting a Mex soldier who had a bead on Lee. Grant was an outstanding company grade infantry officer in the fighting around the City of Mexico. Just another of those puzzles about Grant. Grant personally was a kind and retiring person. On the battlefield he was a tiger as a young officer and he had to have an iron grip on himself as he pushed his army from one hell to the next on the Road to Richmond.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:04:56 AM PST
by
robowombat
(Orthodox)
To: robowombat
I think the Fonda character was based on Custer - another soldier who is regularly hauled over the coals.
To: miss marmelstein
The character of LTC Thursday is a lot weirder the GAC for sure.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:06:03 AM PST
by
robowombat
(Orthodox)
To: circlecity
Lee was a great general but not as good as the one who defeated him. Lee operated under great disadvantages in number of men and material.
He did amazingly well for the circumstances.
He came very close to winning.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:06:17 AM PST
by
marktwain
(President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
To: BlueLancer
I believe this portrait is symbolic rather than trying to be accurate.
To: DoodleDawg
Yes, that is one. Does the room look like a parlor to you or a staff office?
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:07:24 AM PST
by
robowombat
(Orthodox)
To: robowombat
I believe he was left-handed but someone decided to sign that document using his right hand. :-)
To: IronJack
Custer grabbed up the table where the signing took place, I believe.
To: miss marmelstein
You could be right. Although i seem to remember a letter that Sheridan wrote to Mrs. Custer accompanying the table in which he specifically states that he acquired this item for Custer as ‘No man in the Army did more to bring about the successful conclusion of the war.’
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:12:00 AM PST
by
robowombat
(Orthodox)
To: circlecity
>>Lee was a great general but not as good as the one who defeated him.<<
I’m not one to argue over the events of the Civil War, but I will say although Grant was a great General, had he not enjoyed the enormous advantages of the North’s industrial power and manpower, the surrender at Appomattox might never have happened.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:22:13 AM PST
by
fortes fortuna juvat
("What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought." VDARE)
To: BenLurkin
“Greatest American general.”
Greatest American STRATEGIC general. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson was America’s greatest TACTICAL general.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:24:43 AM PST
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: central_va
“Jackson was a rock star in 1862. He was a strange bird.”
My favorite American general. Yes, he was a bit odd, but he was a brilliant tactician. There were and are none better.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:26:51 AM PST
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: IronJack
And Grant gave Custer’s wife the table upon which the surrender was signed.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:28:01 AM PST
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: marktwain
All generals have the strength and weaknesses of the tactical situation they are confronted with. And as I said Lee was a very good General but he certainly made major mistakes. And he didn’t have the ability to learn from his mistakes all that we11. The “audacity” which gave him his greatest victories also contributed to his worst defeats. Once Grant started his Overland campaign, about 6 weeks later Richmond was invested, the army of Northern Virginia was in a siege and for all practical purposes the war was lost for the south. Certainly having to deal with the consequences of the defeats of lesser southern generals (Bragg, Hood) didn’t help Lee. Had Braxton Bragg exploited his victory at Chickamagua and destroyed Rosecranz’ army; the situation Lee faced in 1864 would have been much different.
To: Sean_Anthony
Same birthday as Benjamin Franklin.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:29:43 AM PST
by
Albion Wilde
("A wall, not because we hate the people outside of it, but because we love the people inside.")
To: marktwain
He lost Gettysburg because he fought it as if he still had Jackson, who died only two months before.
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posted on
01/17/2019 9:32:00 AM PST
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: ought-six
"Greatest American STRATEGIC general."
I never saw much strategy at all to Lee. His only two strategic moves were his invasions of the north, both of which he lost, sending him home with his tail between his legs and his army greatly depleted. If that's a strategy then it merely consisted of trying to securing a victory in the north and hoping that would convince the north surrender. Doesn't sound like much of a strategy to me.
To: ought-six
"My favorite American general. Yes, he was a bit odd, but he was a brilliant tactician. There were and are none better."
Yet he pretty much disappeared during the 7 days battle and almost lost the battle of Fredricksburg for the south. He was a great southern general but I'm not convinced he was really any better than Longstreet.
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