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Vegas: Are We Sure We Got the Right Guy?
self | jimjohn

Posted on 10/05/2017 9:21:20 PM PDT by jimjohn

Real Americans,

I have been asking one question on several threads on several blogs, hoping someone can provide an answer: "Has anyone seen a video proving the accused was actually firing the weapon(s) described from the location described on Oct 1, 2017?"


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This may sound like a dumb question to many as they ask, "Haven't you been following the news?" "Following the online blogs?"

To answer your question(s): No, I have not. You see, I have this defense mechanism which tells me that during events such as these, I engage in a personal blackout of news. I don't want to be further terrorized, preached to, and listen to pundits and media hacks tell me why its all my fault, an American should just give up their guns. I also know that the first casualty of war is the truth.

Oh, and BTW, I'm going to be in Las Vegas next month.

So rather than deal with this on an emotion level, I dealing with this as strictly based on evidence; not just what we are being told, but what we're NOT being told.

Like others, I have neither the time or patience for 'conspiracy theories' - just facts, and what we can conclude so far:

1. The accused is not a Republican.

2. The accused in not a member of the NRA.

3. Who ever did this didn't snap. It was cold and calculated.

If either of the above were true, it would have been the 2nd and 3rd attribute repeated from the lips of the media.

There maybe footage out there, but I have not seen it yet, I will ask again just as if the accused survived and was on trial in court: Has anyone seen a video proving the accused was actually firing the weapon(s) described from the location described on Oct 1, 2017?

I am not a gun expert, but there is a big difference between visiting Las Vegas and living/working there. I have done the latter. So I'll give a few more tidbits in case the media hasn't told you:

3. This is Vegas - the south end. There are cameras everywhere. Someone saw something, and its on video tape.

4. They watch everyone - especially if you're a big gambler.

With that said, I'll throw out a couple questions that may or may not have been asked from my Vegas background, that may lead folks to the truth:

A: What date was the accused due to check out of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino? (No one gets open ended stays)

B: Was the accused gambling during his stay? if so, what games were in his interest, and how much was he ahead or behind? (Yes, Real America - casinos keep track of these things.

C: forget hiding weapons in suite cases (which without video proof, even that is speculation, how were these weapons hidden from those that service the rooms? (a do not disturb sign doesn't cover you past 36 hours. Do you know how many folks have died/passed out in those rooms? There are routine safety checks.

D. Knowing the area, this attack could have produced just as many or even more casualties targeting other areas on "The Strip". But this target was chosen - obviously for a reason.

If the government/media complex want me to swallow this story, they need to provide evidence that everything they have explained so far could define the accused as the shooter, instead of possibly as the first victim of a shooter.

Again, I don't know - have no idea. We just want the truth. But no one in my neck of the woods is buying the crap the government is selling .

Just my $.02 jimjohn - OUT

1 posted on 10/05/2017 9:21:20 PM PDT by jimjohn
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I'm sorry, but this absolutely drives me up the wall when FReepers do this.

Please post your comments in the Body of Thread section, not the Body of Comment section.

2 posted on 10/05/2017 9:25:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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Law enforcement there has apparently claimed he had help.


3 posted on 10/05/2017 9:25:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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The fact that the live-in Filipina girlfriend had no inkling that this was about to happen raises a red flag. My wife would know if I was putting together a weapons and ammunition cache. Guaranteed.


4 posted on 10/05/2017 9:26:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Hotel security cameras, plus the killer set up his own cameras. I’m sure the FBI will send you copies of the video with a simple FOI request.


5 posted on 10/05/2017 9:28:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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In a nutshell, looks like leftists have started shooting at us.


6 posted on 10/05/2017 9:29:48 PM PDT by exnavy (long live the .45 colt, the original handgun cartridge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fact that the live-in Filipina girlfriend had no inkling that this was about to happen raises a red flag. My wife would know if I was putting together a weapons and ammunition cache. Guaranteed.

She must have known he was collecting guns.

She didn't want to know what for.

7 posted on 10/05/2017 9:31:10 PM PDT by x
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Who ever did this didn't snap. It was cold and calculated.

That would be an important distinction if he lived and was put on trial. Manslaughter or murder and in what degree.

I don't know that it really matters here. Obviously there was premeditation. Clearly he planned something in advance.

The more important question IMHO is whether he had some kind of break with reality that provoked this or whether he could be called "sane" and "rational" all the way through till the end.

8 posted on 10/05/2017 9:35:02 PM PDT by x
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He appears to have been in a large suite with lots of furniture; plenty of places to hide things if he couldn’t get the maids to leave him alone - which over a few days he probably could.

There must be video, but it’s not being splayed on the evening news.


9 posted on 10/05/2017 9:35:17 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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The photo of the corpse doesn’t show a man with a tattoo on his neck.

Photos of Paddock clearly show a number “13” on his neck.


10 posted on 10/05/2017 9:35:29 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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What if you’d been a collector before she even came on the scene? She might just think it was one of your ‘things’.


11 posted on 10/05/2017 9:36:47 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: smokingfrog

“Has anyone seen a video proving the accused was actually firing the weapon(s) described from the location described on Oct 1, 2017?”


So, you are expecting that someone had a camera from outside the windows, which will show a clear view of the face of the shooter, and the weapon he was using?

while there are cameras all over Vegas, are any trained on the outside of the building, with telescopic lens, towards the 32nd floor?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the ability of cameras to be trained on specific targets and abilities to zoom in on a specific location. If such a camera had to be manually operated from ground level, I can imagine nobody was there to operate the camera, because such person would have been running for their lives, rather than trying to get a better camera angle.

Or maybe I just don’t understand how you expect there to be video of the shooting.


12 posted on 10/05/2017 9:37:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Did this even occur? Even if it did, did 58 really die? You know how they want to inflate the death count for their sick shock value. Also, watch out for the dead already reported dead in previous false flag incidents. I am not calling this a false flag, but it smells.


13 posted on 10/05/2017 9:39:21 PM PDT by sagar
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The Las Vegas authorities released a body cam video of police a day or two ago.

The video isn’t long, and at times, there isnt a time/date stamp on it..
but when the date/time stamp is seen in the upper corner, the date is 10/2, not 10/1 (the day of the attack) and it’s just after 0500 hours.. as in AM.

10/2 at 5:00 AM is after the attack. a few hours after.

And most of the video is police ducked behind a wall-

what possible explanation could there be for that sort of discrepancy?


14 posted on 10/05/2017 9:39:56 PM PDT by delchiante
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The Las Vegas authorities released a body cam video of police a day or two ago.

Link much?
15 posted on 10/05/2017 9:48:04 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: jimjohn

great questions and comments. we should always ask, cui Bono? who benefits? there is a lot to question around many official narratives.


16 posted on 10/05/2017 9:50:02 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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Even though they say he had cameras in & outside of his room, they say they were NOT recording! I do not trust them.


17 posted on 10/05/2017 9:51:09 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: CondorFlight

I don’t see that in the one picture that seems to show it. It looks to me like sagging and wrinkles in the skin of his neck.


18 posted on 10/05/2017 9:53:11 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: sagar
Did this even occur?

Are you a plant from the DUmp? Or a different insane asylum? Good grief.
19 posted on 10/05/2017 9:53:33 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/las-vegas-police-release-body-cam-video-of-first-responders/vp-AAsUqnt


20 posted on 10/05/2017 9:53:38 PM PDT by delchiante
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