Posted on 06/02/2016 7:58:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I wasn’t praising FEMA at all. I was simply stating the obvious that the writer seems to have missed. This is just contingency planning for an event that might happen. It has nothing to do with secret information that they have about an impending earthquake.
Cleveland will be affected by the New Madrid fault. Probably not much to the buildings or your house. But with all of the midwest infrastructure in ruins (gas lines, bridges, transporation, etc.) you might want to have some extra candles and water handy. (In the 1800’s in knocked down chimneys in NYC!)
I’m good for about 4 to 6 weeks on my own. For a large scale event like these (and probably will never happen), it won’t be the “3 days” they used to talk about.
“Like FEMA performed during the practiced evacuation of New Orleans (3 times) before Katrina, or the noreaster that took out so much of New Jersey shore (6 times) or...”
You are under a common misperception that FEMA is responsible for evacuations etc. during and immediately after a disaster. Those are state and local responsibilities. FEMA never has had responsibility over those functions. What FEMA does is help down range government prepare plans and policies for disasters but FEMA are not the ones who are supposed to carry them out. FEMA’s primary role is “continuity of government in times of natural or manmade disasters”. This involves making sure that government can function and that local, state and Federal resources coordinate, communicate and cooperate according to planning. FEMA’s role is not to get individuals to safety. If an planned for evacuation is a clusterf*** blame the state and local officials who were supposed to carry out the plan. FEMA does not have the authority to order local officials to do their jobs the way they were supposed to do them.
“Let’s be honest, FEMA’s ‘drills’ are nothing more than extravagant vacations.”
That is your opinion but as someone who previously worked for that Agency, I saw firsthand how these “drills” exposed shortcomings in disaster planning, communication & logistics networks etc. that could be remedied before they were needed in an actual emergency. Honestly there are very few actual FEMA personnel involved in these drills anyway (the participants usually are mostly state and local emergency officials).
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If you're in Cleveland, a tsunami could only help! /rim-shot>
Do they have Bug Out bags? Bicycles in working condition?
That is just the very start. Please guide them in these decisions, so that they may live.
Ham radio operators do not prepare and practice for putting people in camps and herding them against their will.
FEMA does.
It is theorized that, after the big Loma Prieta quake, much of the strain on techtonic plates in the SF Bay Area is focused on the Hayward Fault, which runs under Oakland.
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What’s special about Eugene/Springfield Oregon? Is that area built on a solid slab of strong rock? Several damage maps show an island of low impact relative to the surrounding area.
An area within the Columbia River outlet east of Astoria appears to focus the tsunami energy, as depicted by the color-scale of damage (maxed out).
https://www.oregon.gov/OMD/OEM/osspac/docs/01_ORP_Cascadia.pdf
Also near the coast, count in 10-15 feet of lower elevation (5 minute time frame), when contemplating flooding issues.
Hayward fault could be a problem for the S.F. Bay area.
California goes Republican in 20 minutes?
Japanese record keeping noted a tsunami without a preceding earthquake—a bolt out of the blue kind of wake-up.
“8.0 to 9.2 is 16x, not 80x.”
It is 70-80x more energy release. Regardless of 16x vs 80x, which we can debate all day long, a 9.2 subduction quake in the water is far more deadlier than that the 8.0 strike-slip quake on land. There is no debating that.
Up until a decade or so ago, the region was considered very safe in terms of earthquake, based on the historical lack of any incidence (since the European settlement). Unknown until then that a fault was capable of storing all the accumulated stress of many century as uplift strain, without any release between major quakes.
California’s experience with structural damage at that time wasn’t considered applicable to points north. Now, only Japan’s engineering experience with severe events comes close to the expertise appropriate to building codes in the northwest.
“I’ve lived in California 43 years and every year they tell us “there’s a 90% probability of a 7.0 or larger quake in the next 30 years.”
Sounds like there’s a 90% probability that you are 13 years overdue a 7.0 or larger quake.
From afar perhaps; as, Seattle won’t be standing there after the first 5 minutes.
How many dams will survive???
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