Posted on 03/05/2016 12:07:49 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
I followed the career of Gabby Giffords prior to her unfortunate shooting, because I wanted to understand her as a libertarian pro-choicer. I found it mysterious how someone who had respect for private property and human freedom, could lack such respect for the most fundamental property privacy, the ownership of one's very self, or the most basic freedom, the most extreme "without which not"--the ultimate sine qua non--the right to claim the use of a life which God has given us and to develop the potential which He has ordained for us. This isn't to cast any aspersion on Congressperson Giffords' heartfelt opposition to firearms ownership, which she must work out in discovering the meaning of her life.
In general, however, people without such personal adverse experience with guns, who also hold the pro-choice position, are allied in their minds with opposition to guns. (What an interesting contrast in the case of Sister Helen Prejean of Dead Man Walking, that she is pro-life for violent criminals who have victimized the relatively innocent, while she is prochoice in the matter of the ultimate innocents, the unborn.)
In this the gun issue at least is a complex of factual inaccuracy, a term the I use to indicate the falsity of the object, untrue things which are believed, while acknowledging my own inability to judge believers in those falsehoods' internal thought processes, so that I am incapable of pronouncing them to personally be liars. However, the subject of their inaccurate beliefs are none the less untruths. If there is a person who knows the truth and is responsible for propagating those falsehoods, he or she is a liar. I believe that every great falsehood starts as a deliberate lie by those who know and abuse the truth, who are not merely, personal practitioners of evil but who seek to propagate evil in others, who decide, individually or in conspiracy with other deliberate liars, to foment falsehood, to get others to accept and believe those lies, the more the better to their thinking.
Because of this, an initially innocent person who comes to believe falsehoods must, upon reflection, testing their newly acquired incorrect beliefs against the broad tableaux of reality, either reject those thought patterns as incorrect or, if they have internalized the mental poison of those factual inaccuracies, they eventually become slaves of those lies. Again, I can't know this about any individual, such as Congressperson Giffords.
Be that as it may, I believe that hardened progressives have no difficulty with the fact that disarming honest citizen pistoleers or riflemen will subject them to powerlessness at the hands of violent criminals. I don't have such direct evidence of this that I believe to be fact, but as it were, "borrow" such a view from our common experience of progressives denying the simple truth of the dedicated malevolence of racialistic and allegedly-"religious", homicidal people--I can't use the word "criminal" because it doesn't accurately describe this phenomenon.
Progressives' ignoring the rights of common people to a peaceful life, progressives' willingness for the common man to suffer loss of commonweal and ordinary civility, seems certainly to suggest to me that they have so assimilated the mind poison of false beliefs, that under the pretext of seeking to guarantee superficial "peace", they are all too happy to see ordinary people rendered defenseless at the hands of violent criminals. This is of a piece with progressives' opposition to police. And it is related to the universal condemnation of the true racism of purposefully locating abortion businesses in racial minority areas, calling such criticism by the universal malediction "racism".
Especially noteworthy are plans to disarm military veterans, who have not merely put themselves in harm's way to protect us, but are more honorable than the average of non-military civilians never in the military, among whom I am one, because their training to cohere them to their group is based upon the principles of honor. It is for this reason that they must be the first disarmed, because their innate courage and incorruptibility relative to the average makes them practical obstructions to domination by the elites who are allied with the progressives.
The proof should be in the pudding: With the high level of gun ownership in this country, more guns than the total of the population, it is obvious to everyone that disarmament of the populace, as seen in so any past historical contexts, cannot proceed without violence against the gun owners on the part of the government. Progressives who have bought and own the lies, are willing to see this planned violence in the name of "peace".
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2312894/posts
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The progressives, claiming to give us a better, more modern world, a safer utopia.
And, like *all* the other 'utopia-builders' before them, they are planning on using the blood and bones of any who don't share their particular vision as the foundation. Thus, like *all* those who came before them, they will fail. And, like all previous attempts, the failure will be marked by human misery, and lots and lots of corpses, on both sides.
This is not a threat, nor even a promise. This is a prediction, based upon millenia of human history, the same history that they refuse to learn from. Because of that refusal, that hubris, the primal forces that shape human interaction will be unleashed.
Not may be, will be. It is as unchanging, and as unforgiving as any other force of nature you may care to name. Neither You, nor I, nor they themselves can alter the outcome, once the first shot is fired, and the first blood spilled, no more than any of us can alter the ebb and flow of the tides...
the infowarrior
I believe you are intirely correct.
This is classic fascism.
I’d love to see this posted at D.U.
and amuse myself with the responses.
Anybody got a troll account there? :^)
Volumes have been written to convey what you did in three paragraphs. Bravo!
This doesn’t surprise me in the least. Very likely, somewhere in a storage facility is the round that will be fired from a federal agent’s weapon and drop me in my tracks. Many of us will meet that fate.
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Progressives’ ignoring the rights of common people to a peaceful life, progressives’ willingness for the common man to suffer loss of commonweal and ordinary civility, ....
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The more complete answer is far too deep a subject for this topic, let alone to type into the little “Your Reply” text box.
What you are seeing is the end goal of liberalism (also known as “progressive-ism”). That is a form of salvation of humanity. In truth it is the age-old Gnostic vision, that humanity was once in the heavens and was cast down as thousands of points of light, to an evil earth. When humanity finds sufficient knowledge, it can (collectively) be restored to its rightful place in the heavens.
It is salvation apart from God, or His Son.
The reason that progressives are subconsciously so intent on imposing their solutions to humanity is because unless a sufficient number of humans attain this “sufficient knowledge”, nobody gets to return to their rightful place in the heavens.
So, (in the progressive sub-conscious) you, prole and right wing Neanderthal, are holding back all of human progress. If you don’t see the light, nobody gets their salvation. So, get with the program or get out of the way!
The rabbit hole on this topic is the deepest there is. But the further I go down it, the more clearly I understand why progressives are getting frantic. They only have but a short time to impose the Gnostic vision of salvation upon humanity. Their game is up the instant Our Lord returns.
300+ million guns and 80+ million gun owners.... Bring it on!
There are liberals who seek total civilian disarmament but especially for whites.
This is because simply to be white is to be unfairly privileged. To be both privileged & armed is to inflict gross injustice upon minorities.
But when enough newly disarmed whites are killed by angry young men of color, then the remaining whites will strive mightily to relieve the “root causes” of poverty, racism, discrimination, blah blah blah, since black on white crime is nothing more than redress of grievances by racial minorities.
By this liberal logic, racial & social problems will be solved as a matter of survival for the white majority which can no longer defend itself. Up to that point, armed whites can afford to ignore root causes of crime because they can simply shoot their impoverished attackers.
Make sense? No? Then buy ammo.
“Make sense? No? Then buy ammo.”
“The proof should be in the pudding: With the high level of gun ownership in this country, more guns than the total of the population, it is obvious to everyone that disarmament of the populace, as seen in so any past historical contexts, cannot proceed without violence against the gun owners on the part of the government. Progressives who have bought and own the lies, are willing to see this planned violence in the name of “peace”.
The simple fact is that it is not possible to forcibly disarm roughly 100 million people with 400 million firearms who are spread across an entire continent, without the use of genocidal means. Any such effort would generate massive resistance from within the government itself, so it cannot be undertaken. The simple fact is that a successful disarmament of the population of this country is thankfully not possible. That is the only thing that has stopped the attempt up until the present time, and the fact that we are adding over 1 million guns to the private stock each month makes such an effort even less likely as each day passes.
Nonetheless, those of us who treasure their liberties and who wish to pass them to future generations can not rest on our laurels. The liberal fascists will never stop trying to control us by limiting our freedoms. There will be more and more attempts to infringe upon our natural right to self defense, and more gun owners will be stripped of their rights on a piecemeal basis over time, unless we put a stop to this process. For this reason, I will be voting for whomever the Republican candidate is in November. If Clinton is elected, things will get much much more difficult for all of us. Such an event would increase the probability that the liberal fascists would foolishly attempt nationwide disarmament, despite the odds against success (greed for power inevitably deludes people into making irrational choices). Given the incredibly bloody and inevitable results of such an attempt, it is our moral duty, as well as being in our self interest, to do everything possible to proactively prevent such an event.
Meanwhile, Dear Leader Obama admonishes the peasants,
“Turn in your guns and learn to trust the Muslims.”
(In a pig’s eye!)
The title is not quite right. We all know that progressives want other people’s money. In this case, they will direct others to engage their “enemy”.
But it must be done "smart". Head to head battles with well armed and trained troops are not the way to go. We must pick off THOSE WHO GIVE THE ORDERS. Cut off the head and the snake will die. And NOW is the time to discover who they are, where they live and work, their travel habits and recreation. When we are forced to rebellion they are the primary targets. If possible they should have "accidents" or just disappear, to leave a doubt that the resistance is responsible.
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