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I agree with Obama for allowing a U.S. corporation to open a factory in Cuba
wordpress ^ | February 15, 2016 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 02/15/2016 3:48:27 PM PST by grundle

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To: grundle
Dear Dan,

The company will not be allowed to hire Cubans. They will pay the Cuban government and they will supply Cubans.

The government will pay the workers or not as they please.

You should know this.

Now that you do please tell me again what a great idea this is.

21 posted on 02/15/2016 4:09:33 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: central_va

According to another article, the tractors manufactured in the factory will me produced for the Cuban market. How many people in Cuba can afford one? What, 100?


22 posted on 02/15/2016 4:10:22 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: grundle

This will only be a pay out to the Castro regime. They need cash. There are only so many European tourists to keep the island afloat (Maybe Hank Johnson will let us know if it will tip over). Venezuela is in the toilet and can’t support Cuba. But Obama will. If this benefited the average Cuban Obama would not allow this.


23 posted on 02/15/2016 4:10:45 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Smedley
You are correct.

Essentially they are contracting out the building the building of their product to a slave work camp.

24 posted on 02/15/2016 4:12:10 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Army Air Corps
Cubans will not buy the tractors. The government will.
25 posted on 02/15/2016 4:13:20 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: grundle
"50 years is enough , " Trump said in an interview with the Daily Caller published Tuesday, referring to Obama's decision to re-establish U.S. ties with Cuba.

"I think it's fine. I think it's fine, but we should have made a better deal," Trump added. " The concept of opening with Cuba is fine."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/donald-trump-cuba-diplomatic-opening/index.html
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meanwhile...

How Russia arms America's southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Russia's push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia's top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ..."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

26 posted on 02/15/2016 4:13:36 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Ah, the Cuban government shall buy the tractors. Shall they pass the hat?


27 posted on 02/15/2016 4:15:21 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: grundle

I was not opposed to opening up relations with Cuba, but we should have gotten something in return-like free elections.


28 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:17 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Army Air Corps
The government will allow them to build a factory but they will not own the factory.

The government will present them with a bill for everyone who works at the factory. Probably a 200% markup beyond what the people who actually work will get.

The company will have one customer for their product who will tell them what they will pay (at gun point) for the tractors which will be sold, (at a major mark up) to some other socialist paradise for a profit.

This is a great deal for the Cuban government.

29 posted on 02/15/2016 4:23:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: grundle

Open a factory in a communist country where all the means of production are under control of the collectivity?
dumb idea.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 4:39:53 PM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: grundle
Usually, when U.S. corporations open up factories in poor countries, in order to attract workers, they usually pay between two and five times what the average worker in that country makes.

BullCrap. Some years back, Green Giant moved one of their CA canning plants down to Mexico. After about a year, the Merxicans were going out on strike. It seems that GG worked them for 11 months of the year, then let them off. After a month they started rehiring - this way they didn't have to pay the Mexicans even the pathetic minimum wage, since that was for full time workers, and these GG employees were considered "seasonal".

Lotta unhappy folks and I wrote GG saying I would no longer buy their products as I didn't know if their pist off workers were spitting in the cans or not.

Never got an answer - and I haven't bought any GG products since.

31 posted on 02/15/2016 4:47:31 PM PST by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: Farmer Dean

I think my uncle has a vintage Allis similar to what’s shown. It’s been a while since I’ve been up there to poke around but it’s the only Allis my die hard Massey Ferguson uncle ever had.


32 posted on 02/15/2016 4:54:03 PM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: I want the USA back
Check out the website:
http://cleberllc.com
Sounds like juniors endowment fund is full.
Not a sound investment. Now watch it get millions in Obama funds....
33 posted on 02/15/2016 4:56:28 PM PST by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: Smedley

I agree the 2 to 5 times pay will go to support the state and only the normal 20 dollars will goto the employee. Paying 5 times the going pay will destroy the local economy as the prices will raise on all goods to take advantage of new money and leave those without the jobs behind.


34 posted on 02/15/2016 5:04:30 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Ah, so Fascism, then. Near state ownership in practice, if not in name.


35 posted on 02/15/2016 5:12:40 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: grundle; humblegunner; Syncro

36 posted on 02/15/2016 5:13:54 PM PST by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: grundle

Yay Obama!

Yay Cuba!

Yay Communism!

Yea moving jobs to Cuba!

Yea America on the way to a 3rd world country!

Yea grundle Obama Castro Commie lover!


37 posted on 02/15/2016 5:26:00 PM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/Coverup Treason ARREST the traitors! Hillary, Obama, Rice, Holder, Learner et al)
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Why does a corporation or anybody need permission from the federal government to build anything anywhere? If the company wants to build a plant in cuba, that is between the company and cuba and nobody else. If boeing wants to build a plant in south carolina, that is between boeing, south carolina, and the town they want to build the plant in.


38 posted on 02/15/2016 5:26:27 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: grundle
So, how long have you been a communist sympathizer?


39 posted on 02/15/2016 5:29:00 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: grundle
2 things
1.”the radical left, who never complained about Cubans making $20 per month while employed by the Cuban government, to complain that the $40 to $100 per month the Cuban workers get paid by this U.S. corporation”
The Cuban government may charge the corporation $40-$100 a month labor costs but the workers will still only get $20. Surgeons only get $30, no way a tractor assembly line worker is going to get double or triple the salary.
2. The need tractors. The only tractors I saw were on TV or really old. Many (most) cuban farmers still plow with oxen.
40 posted on 02/15/2016 5:32:35 PM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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