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Gay ISIS is True but Misses Important Points
1/8/2016 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 01/08/2016 3:40:44 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

The Secret, Hypocritical Gay World of ISIS (Tim Teeman, Daily Beast, January 6, 2016) makes important, original points, about the young male sexual exploitation victim who was executed, according to the Sharia view of sex victims as the guilty party, while the older perpetrator was allowed to be sent off to the Isis fighting front to save his honor. But Teeman misses at least two important, larger contexts: First, sanctioning sexually active male homosexual behavior while vilifying the sexually passive male homosexual role, is part of a millenia-old pattern that was typical, possibly of several great world civilizations, certainly of the Greco-Roman world.

Teeman also misses pointing out the relevance of "The Lost Boy Syndrome" of traditional American polygamy. The Lost Boys are human collateral damage at "The Creek", the Short Creek / Colorado City polygamist community of Fundamentalist Mormon Warren Jeffs. Polygamist societies not only sexually exploit young girls but create a demographic-sexual imbalance in the marital expectations of a majority of young men, as powerless, prospectless boys inevitably have to be jettisoned by their families and societies. This situation is similar to sexual imbalances worldwide, whether in the war-causing sex-ratio imbalance of China's One Child Policy or a more traditional treatment of Islam's own Lost Boys.

Teeman's outrage at Islam's homosexual hypocrisies--the article has a main tag "Killers"--is itself hypocritical, because Gaymerica has its own "Lost Boys", the large proportion of Same Sex Attracted (SSA) boys who are prime candidates for homosexual grooming, having been rendered vulnerable by a history of same-sex childhood sexual abuse by men or older boys--a fundamental, core feature of the homosexual culture.

And the "Killer" tag is rich, from a "Gay" culture that considers it the responsibility of the HIV-negative to protect themselves while the HIV-positive have no responsibility to warn their uninflected brethren. This is so extreme that there is a virtual "civil-rights" sub-movement in the homosexual culture, against any meaningful prevention policies.

Homosexuality research coordinator Daly O'Leary writes in "The syndemic of AIDS and STDS among MSM" at the National Institutes of Health:

Gay AIDS activists insisted that AIDS education must be sex positive, avoid moralizing, and not distinguish between those who were HIV positive and those who were HIV negative (Odets 2004). The gay AIDS establishment defended the right of infected persons to remain ignorant of their condition and the right of infected persons to conceal their contagious condition from others, including sexual partners and healthcare personnel. They wanted gay bathhouses kept open, arguing that they could be places to impart prevention education, and distribute condoms (Nieves 1999).

Prevention efforts were focused on self-protection rather than the duty to protect others:

It was considered crucial to articulate an ideology of solidarity, one that rejected as divisive all efforts to distinguish the infected from the uninfected. Such distinctions, it was feared, would lead to “viral apartheid.” Solidarity was endangered to the extent that the infected were held to have special duties … Cohesiveness could best be grounded in the concepts of universal vulnerability to HIV and the universal importance of safe sexual practices. (Nieves 1999)

For gay activists, the proper goal of AIDS prevention was defense of the gay sexual revolution, and since gay liberation was founded on a “sexual brotherhood of promiscuity … any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a communal betrayal of gargantuan proportions” (Rotello 1997, 109). AIDS educators were:

to encourage condom use rather than attempt to persuade them to abandon anal intercourse … AIDS educators have a responsibility to aim only for the minimum necessary changes in individuals' lives which are needed to reduce the risk of getting AIDS. (Rotello 1997, 109)

Suggestions that the infected might have a duty toward others were often greeted with scorn. For example:

To mark the occasion of the city's [N.Y.] 50,000th AIDS case, efforts were made to launch a prevention campaign that would focus on protecting others as well as oneself. Those efforts were aborted when AIDS specialists inside the health department denounced the proposal as “victim blaming.” (Bayer 1996)

It was assumed by those outside the gay community that fear of contracting an incurable, debilitating disease would motivate gay men to refrain from risky sexual activity, but the gay community reacted to the crisis by romanticizing HIV infection:

A stranger to gay culture, unaware of the reality of AIDS, might believe from much of the gay press that HIV infection was a sort of elixir that produced high self-esteem, solved long-standing psychological and substance abuse problems, and enhanced physical appearance … creating the subconscious impression that infection—the “penalty” of unsafe sex—is really not so bad after all. (Rotello 1997, 241)

HIV-positive status was portrayed in some homosexual publications as more fun. An editorial in Steam, a magazine aimed at gay men, quotes a man who has been positive since the early years of the epidemic:

I'm so sick and tired of these Negatives whining about how difficult it is to stay safe. Why don't they just get over it and get Positive. (Rotello 1997)

According to Scott O'Hara, Steam's HIV-positive editor who died of AIDS in 1998:

One of my primary goals is the Maximization of Pleasure, and just as I believe that Gay Men Have More Fun, so too do I believe that Positives have learned to have much more fun than Negatives. I'm delighted to be Positive … The Negative world is defined by fear, ours by pleasure. (Rotello 1997)

Those who died of AIDS were memorialized as martyrs. Rather than calling for changes in the behaviors, which led to these deaths, the AIDS establishment blamed the government, religion, and the straight world for not finding a cure, for not funding education, for its homophobia, for causing homosexuals' low self-esteem, and for denying their “right” to marry (Kramer 2005).

Because the thought of using condoms for the rest of their lives was unacceptable to many MSM, in 1992 the AIDS activists came up with the slogan “Be Here for the Cure” (Califia 2002, 287). They demanded that government-funded scientists immediately find a cure for HIV/AIDS, one which would allow MSM to return to their previous behavior without the risk of dying.

For some, even the risk reduction compromise of “condom code” was too sex negative. Walt Odets, a gay psychologist—writing when the AIDS diagnosis was still a death sentence-argued that if it was a choice between anal intercourse (AI) and other high risk practices and life, homosexual men should feel free to choose AI and take their chances. Reduction of HIV transmission should “only be the secondary task because it must be built on the foundation of lives experienced as worth the trouble.” Odets argued that the condom code made MSM feel guilty about unprotected sex and having just escaped what they regarded as a shaming culture, they were very reluctant to establish another one (Odets 1994). Odets felt that those who designed the condom code ignore the realities of gay life:

The idea that gay men would readily adapt to condoms, ignore or fail to recognize their limitations, and, according to many educators, have fun with them is rooted in homophobia. Also homophobic is the expectation that gay men ought to feel shame and guilt for not liking them and, often, not using them.



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1 posted on 01/08/2016 3:40:44 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blGLwSq6lrk
Moody Blues, The Question, 1970

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door
With a thousand million questions
About hate and death and war?

When we stop and look around us
There is nothing that we need.
In a world of persecution
that is burning in its greed.

2 posted on 01/08/2016 3:50:46 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

In the early 1980’s the joke around San Francisco was that Pitchers were never catchers although catchers could be pitchers.


3 posted on 01/08/2016 3:53:25 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

The article is outdated but only as it applies to AIDS as a death sentence. The queer community has been assuaged by scientific and legal advances largely rectifying their complaints.


4 posted on 01/08/2016 3:55:30 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

What a crucial post about a very sick group of individuals..
Thanks for providing details on these deviants.
1. Does anyone have credible figures on the number and percent of male homosexuals in the USA?
2. What is the percentage of homosexuals who became that way due to being victims of same sex sexual abuse?

What a curse to decency.


5 posted on 01/08/2016 3:58:10 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: CharlesOConnell

I’ve never felt compelled to learn more about the gay culture and I never will but “they” think everybody and their brother should know everything there is to know about it.


6 posted on 01/08/2016 4:05:31 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

That kind of research was mostly abandoned by after the APA removed homosexuality from the DSM (due to militant activists).

Not many psychologists want to be blackballed or lose their license over it.


7 posted on 01/08/2016 4:07:46 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

No funding for that research either. I was searching for the death stats to see if they had risen and instead I found a pretty logical article on the head of the administration in case anyone forgets. Also, Beau Biden is now gone, too.

“Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up”

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up/


8 posted on 01/08/2016 4:41:17 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: equaviator

Ive never felt compelled to learn more about the gay culture and I never will but “they” think everybody and their brother should know everything there is to know about it.


I agree. They talk endlessly about it, and it is soooooo uninteresting... besides being disgusting.


9 posted on 01/08/2016 4:45:59 AM PST by samtheman (Trump. Wall. Elect. Build.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Smoking is a dangerous lifestyle choice and we must tax it and ban it to oblivion.

Certain homosexual acts are a dangerous lifestyle choice and we must promote and honor them, even to our children.


10 posted on 01/08/2016 5:18:08 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Bttt


11 posted on 01/08/2016 5:39:03 AM PST by kalee
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To: 2banana

Odets felt that those who designed the condom code ignore the realities of gay life:


Would seem smokers are more compliant that homers?


12 posted on 01/08/2016 5:54:43 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: equaviator

All I need to know is they like feces.


13 posted on 01/08/2016 5:57:49 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

The People’s Temple had a church officer designated to take an enema kit to every handsome young man in turn, to be used before attending a private appointment with the Rev Jim Jones.


14 posted on 01/08/2016 6:24:16 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Dennis Prager: “Why Judaism (And Then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality”

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles2/PragerHomosexuality.php

An interesting and, I believe, related read.


15 posted on 01/08/2016 6:28:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: wbarmy

Guys who do not identify themselves as gay are always pitchers. In the gay world, Muslims are easy pickups and always pitchers. I had a bunch of gay fraternity brothers.


16 posted on 01/08/2016 6:32:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: wbarmy

To make it even more confusing, catchers don’t have to be gay but pitchers do. You don’t have to be aroused to catch but you do have to be aroused to pitch. If a guy gets aroused at the thought of sex with a man, he’s gay.


17 posted on 01/08/2016 6:35:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

“Does anyone have credible figures on the number and percent of male homosexuals in the USA?”

If I recall correctly, it is about three percent of men in the USA, but the line is fuzzy when you get into the degree of bisexuality.

Women in the USA have a somewhat lower incidence of exclusive homosexuality, but two or three times the rate of bisexuality, but that varies also (from once when I was real drunk, to any chance I get).


18 posted on 01/08/2016 6:40:06 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: CharlesOConnell
The queer community has been assuaged by scientific and legal advances largely rectifying their complaints.

And funded by ObamaCare...

19 posted on 01/08/2016 6:42:46 AM PST by Does so (Europeans had better start "overstaying their visas" in the USA. ==8-O)
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To: AppyPappy

Older male Muslims are pitchers. The young ones get abused by the older ones in horrific ways.

I was in one situation where a man was walking his young son around (I assume the boy was his son) all painted up, and “introducing” him to different guys.

And when I say painted, I have seen prostitutes with less warpaint on.


20 posted on 01/08/2016 6:58:20 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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