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Why Call Names? An Answer to Olavo de Carvalho
Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

Posted on 11/26/2015 2:16:48 PM PST by juliosevero


Why Call Names? An Answer to Olavo de Carvalho

By Julio Severo

Public comment by Brazilian philosopher Olavo de Carvalho in his Facebook profile (posted on November 25, 2015):

"Pope Francis may really be collaborating with globalist ambitions, but the World Council of Churches (which is Protestant) was already collaborating forty years ago. This the scoundrel Julio Severo does not tell."

His comment was posted hours after I spread publicly in my Facebook the publication, in Barbwire, of my article "Catholic Church Paid Millions in Dollars to Facilitate Immigrant Invasion in U.S."

In this article, no profanity was used against the pope or the Catholic Church.

I do not like and I do not use profanity. But even though I liked it, Barbwire, where I am a columnist, has an inflexible posting policy, which says: "We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity, all caps, or discourteous behavior. Thank you for partnering with us to maintain a courteous and useful public environment where we can engage in reasonable discourse."

Courteous behavior distinguishes conservatives from liberals. Profanity habit is proper for liberals, not Christian conservatives.

Therefore, if I called the pope, the Catholic Church or Olavo a "scoundrel," I would rightly be rebuked or expelled from Barbwire.

My Barbwire article was based on exposés by Cliff Kincaid, a Catholic American who has already interviewed Olavo. So my main source was Kincaid. How could not Olavo perceive it if I made it clear, giving full credit to the source? If he had not perceived it, what is he going to do now? To call Kincaid a "scoundrel"?

I have publicized in Brazil some articles exposing Pope Francis’ collaboration with globalist ambitions. Some of these articles are from Catholic pro-life sources. Others are from WND (WorldNetDaily), especially the report "Vatican aligns with U.N. on 'world governance.'" (My translation: "Vaticano se alinha com a ONU para a formação do governo mundial.") If Olavo is displeased with this WND exposé, why revile the translator, not the original publisher?

About the World Council of Churches, the most detailed and profound exposés in Brazil against this apostate institution were translated and published by me.

In 2014, I published in Portuguese the translation of "Resurrecting Liberation Theology," written by Mark D. Tooley and published by FrontPage.

In 2007, I published in Portuguese the translation of "Soviet Ghosts Haunt the World Council of Churches," by the same author and magazine. In that time, Olavo's website in Portuguese published my translation.

Both Tooley reports show that the World Council of Churches (WCC) is involved with Liberation Theology, by mentioning especially Rev. Walter Altmann, who was then the WCC Moderator.

Immediately after I published a Tooley report in Brazil (July 2007), an assistant of the WCC Moderator got in touch with me asking for "dialogue" between Altmann and me.

My answer: "What is there to dialogue? Walter Altmann needs urgently to dialogue with the Holy Spirit, repent from his many sins and change his course while there is time. God is love and mercy, but also justice. Sooner or later, Altmann is going to reap everything that he has planted, because God delays, but he does not fail."

There are many other articles in my blog against WCC. No one of them reviles WCC or Altmann.

In America, Olavo's name appears as president of the Inter-American Institute, a conservative institution with prominent evangelical and catholic conservative figures. Its mission is to attack the Left. But currently, its president is busy attacking, with many dirty words for weeks, a man who fights the Left and supports Ronald Reagan since the 1980s, when Olavo was still a left-winger in Brazil.

I know personally some members of the Inter-American Institute. No one of them is foul-mouthed. I have never heard, for example, evangelical John Haskins, who had a vital role in the establishment of the institute, using dirty words.

But when the president of this institute says publicly "This the scoundrel Julio Severo does not tell," he commits two sins: 1. He reviled a conservative Christian. 2. He lied, because this same conservative has already told everything that he needed to tell on WCC.

Yet, different from the Catholic Church, where the pope rules, WCC does not rule all churches in the Protestant and Pentecostal movement. It has influence only on affiliated churches.

In my case, I have never attended a WCC-affiliated evangelical church. Even so, I have told everything about WCC that Brazil needed to know.

I only did not use to tell in the U.S. that in Brazil Olavo is publicly a foul-mouthed man who attacks conservatives.

Vulgarity and profanity are behaviors improper for conservatives, in Brazil or the U.S. Olavo, who has been reviling me since 2013 when I rejected the Catholic Inquisition, needs to understand this fact.

Portuguese version of this article: Por que xingar? Uma resposta a Olavo de Carvalho

Source: Last Days Watchman

Recommended Reading:

Neocons, the Inquisition, Russophobia and Lies

Catholic Church Paid Millions in Dollars to Facilitate Immigrant Invasion in U.S.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Reference; Religion
KEYWORDS: olavodecarvalho

1 posted on 11/26/2015 2:16:48 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: juliosevero

As a believing Catholic, anyone who faithfully pursues the truth, wherever it leads, has my thanks.


2 posted on 11/26/2015 3:44:35 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: juliosevero

Brazile knows its problem is Roussef. Amazing America has not awakened yet to Obama.


3 posted on 11/26/2015 4:04:52 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: juliosevero

Let us be clear that use of obsenities or adjectives is not vulgarity. Vulgarity is a show of stupidity and ignorance. Olavo is none of that.


4 posted on 11/26/2015 4:07:01 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: lavaroise

Deliberate ignorance about decency and courteous behavior is stupidity. This is Olavo’s problem.


5 posted on 11/26/2015 5:55:54 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: lavaroise

Deliberate ignorance about decency and courteous behavior is stupidity. This is Olavo’s problem. By the way, you are a Brazilian ignorant of English, because it is “obscenity,” not “obscenities.” Be it as it may, Olavo’s vulgarity and dirty words have no place among U.S. conservatives. In fact, he is a columnist in no major U.S. Catholic conservative website.


6 posted on 11/26/2015 6:01:55 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: lavaroise

Again, your English is weak. The biggest problem is: when I talk about Olavo to Americans, usually they answer that they do not know anything about him. So to talk about him in America is fruitless.


7 posted on 11/26/2015 6:06:09 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: juliosevero

No,the idiot is usually the one commenting the commenter, instead of discussing the subject at hand.

Here you comment about my english (irrelevant) and you comment about Olavo instead of his points.

Bottom line you behave like the typical school dunce who cannot make the essay on the subject the teacher wants to talk about, and instead you say “the teacher is rude, the teacher is stupid”, ie. you avoid the difficult subjects and go into attack mode on people.

Like I said, saying obsenities might be unfortunate, but to be vulgar, ie. to ignore or to not delve into the subject matter is terminally deleterious.


8 posted on 11/26/2015 11:44:31 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: lavaroise

The problem is: You do not understand English and Olavo. Vulgarity, according to Merriam-Webster, is the quality or state of not having good taste, manners, politeness, etc., and something (such as a word) that is offensive or rude.

And when you say “you avoid the difficult subjects and go into attack mode on people” you ignore (yes, there is ignorance in you) that instead of addressing the issue as a real philosopher (yes, Julio Severo has already criticized the World Council of Churches), Olavo went in attack mode on me (Julio Severo is a scoundrel). Your inconsistency is gross.

I will not repeat here the many vulgarities and dirty words of Olavo, because the conservative public in America hates such behavior.

But it is enough to say that he is an avid revisionist of the Inquisition: http://lastdayswatchman.blogspot.com/2015/10/neocons-inquisition-russophobia-and-lies.html


9 posted on 11/27/2015 6:20:25 AM PST by juliosevero
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To: juliosevero

You are assuming a sort of Soviet puritanism amongst conservatives. Conservatives are not puritans who do personal attacks. They discuss subjects and issues at hand.


10 posted on 11/27/2015 3:24:03 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: lavaroise
You said "Conservatives are not puritans who do personal attacks." By your logic, Olavo is not a conservative, because he made a personal attack (Julio Severo is a scoundrel). Yet, this is the Soviet way of doing things: accuse other people of what YOU do. This is exactly what Olavo does frequently. This is what you are doing, by focusing on unreal personal attacks (I have never called Olavo a scoundrel) and diverting from his real personal attacks. This is Soviet dishonesty. When you worship a human being as if he were a god, you see no imperfection in him and sees imperfection in all people dissenting him. By the way, the Soviet system had its own men who were worshipped as gods. How different are you from this?
11 posted on 11/27/2015 5:03:59 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: juliosevero

Julio Severo’s original article is a lovely little hit piece attacking the Catholic Church. Whereas there is much to rue about the Church, the article is clearly intended to undermine the Church’s prestige and authority. One scarcely expects a complete discussion of such a massive and complex organization, but Olavo is correct in pointing out that Severo’s article lacks balance and nuance. It is for this that Olavo rightly calls Severo a ‘scoundrel.’

In objecting to the scoundrel sobriquet Severo astonished on two counts. First, he kindly links to his own original article but provides no link to Olavo’s Facebook response. By failing to do so Severo weakens his own argument, namely, that he is being vilely maligned by Olavo. The second is Severo’s furiously overblown response to being called a scoundrel, which far exceeds the severity of the offense, if indeed such a mild appellation can be deemed offensive in today’s unremarked gutter speak discourse. He is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Why? It is so transparently contrived that it calls Severo’s honesty into question. I’m going to put this one down to virtue signaling designed to silence Olavo’s criticism of the original agitprop.

For more information on the issue of infiltration and the Catholic Church receiving government money, see:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyeejjX7lmU

For more info on Communism today, see:

tercalivre.com/en/ and www.jrnyquist.com/


12 posted on 12/02/2015 12:07:17 AM PST by tlrugit (Do not yield to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.)
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To: tlrugit

Probably, I am having an exchange here with Olavo himself, because no one in America cares more about defending Olavo than himself — with other screen names. So much for honesty…


13 posted on 12/02/2015 1:56:38 PM PST by juliosevero
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To: tlrugit
Olavo: some years ago one of your friends said to me: "When someone attacks you on the internet, answer him through different profiles." I wonder where he learnt this strategy. You can debate me with no fear. I am a Christian, and I do not bite.
14 posted on 12/03/2015 8:21:53 AM PST by juliosevero
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To: lavaroise
Olavo: some years ago one of your friends said to me: "When someone attacks you on the internet, answer him through different profiles." I wonder where he learnt this strategy. You can debate me with no fear. I am a Christian, and I do not bite.
15 posted on 12/03/2015 8:22:31 AM PST by juliosevero
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