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The Twin Peaks Massacre Coverup
The Aging Rebel ^
| 9/7/2015
Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. That's a lot of cameras. Not mentioned are the cell phones returned with all the data scrubbed.
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posted on
09/07/2015 4:05:11 PM PDT
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: Cboldt
The only charge that can possibly stick on the affidavit is conspiracy. Courts have ruled that the affidavit makes no particular allegation of perpetrating assault, murder, or any other crime of violence. But doesn't there need to be in addition, an overt act by the accused for the conspiracy charge to stick?
42
posted on
09/07/2015 4:09:05 PM PDT
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: don-o; Crystal Palace East
43
posted on
09/07/2015 4:09:14 PM PDT
by
Osage Orange
( How do you get holy water? You boil the hell out of it.)
To: don-o
--
But doesn't there need to be in addition, an overt act by the accused for the conspiracy charge to stick? --
Yes, but that can be a legal act. Traveling to Twin Peaks is an overt act. There is no requirement that a crime be completed, for conspiracy to be completed.
I did omit one aspect, but deliberately and for simplification. The charge is roughly "gang conspiracy," for which the state has membership evidence.
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posted on
09/07/2015 4:13:23 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Nifster
My brother lives in a Waco suburb not too far from the scene. He had more info than me about what went on. He concurs with you....a bunch of nasty bikers got in a gunfight with themselves from which some of them are now pushing up daisies.
To: MileHi
Too bad you can’t understand how Texas law applies in this case.
Stoopod. CMEOFYS
46
posted on
09/07/2015 4:16:50 PM PDT
by
Crystal Palace East
(Are Crybaby Conservatives, calling everyone else RINOs, really Dems trying to get you to not vote?)
To: Cboldt
47
posted on
09/07/2015 4:20:22 PM PDT
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: Crystal Palace East
Too bad you cant understand how Texas law applies in this case. I do. WTF does that have to do with you calling a veteran FReeper a dem troll, N00B?
48
posted on
09/07/2015 4:22:25 PM PDT
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
To: Cowman
To: Cowman
Surely someone would bring it up....
50
posted on
09/07/2015 4:24:42 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: MileHi
51
posted on
09/07/2015 4:29:08 PM PDT
by
mac_truck
(Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
To: Cboldt
Yes, but that can be a legal act. Traveling to Twin Peaks is an overt act. That is just bizarre. Another repost...
Threes the key
but youll need more
Wherein are cases of EOCA charges being both upheld and dismissed. But in all the examples, the EOCA charge was in addition to other crimes committed by individuals.
52
posted on
09/07/2015 4:42:30 PM PDT
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: Mrs. Don-o
My thoughts will be with you and don.
53
posted on
09/07/2015 4:42:38 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Section 20.)
To: mac_truck
54
posted on
09/07/2015 4:46:41 PM PDT
by
MileHi
(Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
To: Paladin2
I think the idea that CI's or UC's instigated the gunfight for some law enforcement motive is not plausible. The first thing is that most supervisors in those organizations are extremely cautious to protect their careers. The second is that nobody expects to start a gun fight and then just walk out.
On the other side you have people like the Mr. and Mrs. English. I honestly don't think they were expecting trouble because who brings their wife to a gang fight. Well Barack Obama, maybe. (I got $20 on the Wookie)
55
posted on
09/07/2015 4:53:25 PM PDT
by
USNBandit
(Sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: don-o
The "organized criminal activity" prong comes from the MC being named in the Texas DPS database. Again, all we are talking about is probable cause (which, as you know, I don't believe has been articulated in the cookie-cutter affidavit), which is a far cry from proof.
In a trial, the DA would have to prove, among other things, that the gang was a criminal enterprise. Mention in the DPS database would not be enough.
But if you set aside the gang part, and just look at what passes for "this person probably conspired with others to commit murder, capital murder, or aggravated assault," that ought to be enough to keep a sane person out of Waco.
56
posted on
09/07/2015 4:58:43 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: USNBandit
My point is that the CIs are way more of a wild card and not totally manageable. They could easily go off on their own, but their “controllers” are still liable for funding them. An accounting of all govt personnel is well warranted. Various LEO could not be aware of each others CIs.
57
posted on
09/07/2015 5:01:52 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
(Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current devices...one uses Brit spel now.)
To: don-o
Also keep in mind, in Texas, the accusation alone, without any trial, carries a six month sentence unless you can post bail.
Not that probable cause is necessary anyway. If the cops and DA don't like the way you look, all they have to do is make something up. Not saying that's what happened here (except for 140 or so witnesses), just say the legal process is a weapon in its own right, in the hands of a DA and his puppet court system.
Reyna probably KNOWS he can't win a case, and doesn't care. He got his point across. Just like setting bail at a million dollars, "to send a message."
58
posted on
09/07/2015 5:04:23 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Cboldt
I guess I can accept that but it is still infuriating. Ass having a cop as GJ Foreman
59
posted on
09/07/2015 5:26:45 PM PDT
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: Elderberry
100+ days and they still don’t have ballistics and forensic reports to identify whether or not any of those shot were hit by firearms from the law enforcement agencies?
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posted on
09/07/2015 5:27:32 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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