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The Twin Peaks Massacre Coverup
The Aging Rebel ^ | 9/7/2015

Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry

This is the 114th day of the Twin Peaks Massacre coverup. It is worth noting for two lamentable reasons.

First, the degree to which government officials have been uncooperative, obstructive and evasive about the Massacre is prima facie evidence that there is an official coverup. There was no probable cause to believe that most of the 177, or 182, or so, people arrested that day were guilty of “engaging in organized criminal activity.” There is probable cause to believe that police murdered at least six men and may have attempted to murder 20 more.

The second reason to note the ongoing coverup is the apparent disappearance of what just a few years ago was being called “the investigative impulse” in American journalism. The investigative impulse began, according to Jon Marshall of Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism, “in the 1600s, when Enlightenment philosophers taught that ‘people have a right to question their leaders.’”

To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup. To its credit, the Houston Chronicle has. “Any time a prosecutor’s office or a politician does not want people talking about something, one should raise a red flag and insist we talk about it,” a law professor named Patrick Metze told the Chronicle this morning. “They may say it is to protect the investigation, but they are protecting themselves from whatever it is that they don’t want us to see or know about.” You can read the entire Chronicle piece here.

Based on information supplied by various sources who believe their lives, careers and pensions are in actual danger and who have spoken with The Aging Rebel under conditions of either “off the record” or “deep background,” this page will continue to report that the Twin Peaks Massacre was the result of a contrived and avoidable confrontation between members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. The Aging Rebel believes that the confrontation was engineered by and anticipated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Texas Department of Public Safety and a Waco area law enforcement agency that was not the Waco Police Department. The Aging Rebel also believes that these police agencies, and possibly the Waco Police Department, began physically preparing for an armed confrontation to include the use of deadly force in the Twin Peaks restaurant parking lot at or before dawn on May 17. And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. Investigating This Mess

The Associated Press defines information gained “off the record” as information that “cannot be used for publication.” The same news agency and most publications define “deep background” as information that “can be used but without attribution. The source does not want to be identified in any way, even on condition of anonymity.” Generally, information gained off the record can only be used after being substantiated by additional independent sources. Off the record information tells reporters where to llok and what to look for.

Off the record information about federal police actions is often substantiated by filing Freedom of Information Act requests with, for example, the Disclosure Division of the ATF. The information requests involving bikers are almost routinely denied on the grounds of either what the FOIA Act calls “Exemption Seven” or one of three “Exclusions.”

The exempt information is defined as, “Certain types of information compiled for law enforcement purposes.” The three exclusions are: One, “Subject of a criminal investigation or proceeding is unaware of the existence of records concerning the pending investigation or proceeding and disclosure of such records would interfere with the investigation or proceeding;” two, “Informant records maintained by a criminal law enforcement agency and the individual’s status as an informant is not known; and three, “Existence of FBI foreign intelligence, counterintelligence or international terrorism records are classified fact.”

Exclusion three is one reason why motorcycle clubs are frequently described as “transnational gangs.”

Taken together, the exemption and exclusions explain why “gang investigations” are always classified as “ongoing” even when the newest information in those investigations is more than a decade old.

After a FOIA request is denied, large news gathering organizations and some private law firms have the means to bring suit in federal court to discover exempt and excluded information. The Aging Rebel does not have the resources to pursue such lawsuits at this time. This page is aware that many of its conclusions about what happened in Waco on May 17 are unsubstantiated sand have been described as “speculative.” As one 23-year-old reporter recently put it, “A blog favorable to motorcycle clubs citing an undisclosed source…is not credible.”

Credible or not, the authorities in Texas have been blatantly manipulating public opinion since the day of the Massacre and the Department of Justice has, as yet, not chosen to intervene. One plausible explanation for that inaction is that the Department of Justice has been involved since sometime before May 1.

The Aging Rebel stands by its coverage of the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre and will continue to pursue the story.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: biker; nuttery; texas; waco; zot
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1 posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Enough are charged that SOMEONE should demand their Constitutional right to a speedy trial. Heading toward half a year with vague charges and no evidence indicates they’re trying to concoct an elaborate justification for the incident. Should someone demand “charge me for real, evidence included, or let me go” they may avoid the unlimited-budget convict-at-all-costs attack being prepared, and help show others the way out too.


2 posted on 09/07/2015 2:41:56 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: ctdonath2

You believe we still have Constitutional Rights?


3 posted on 09/07/2015 2:46:12 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
I also think there were Undercover heavily involved in this, which may be what started the whole thing.
4 posted on 09/07/2015 2:54:29 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Elderberry

Oh the hyperbole....really???? This was neither a massacre nor really of any concern to most folks.

Nasty MC members got caught up in the nonsense that 1% always get caught up in. Guess what? I am about as sympathetic as if you told me that the Mafia got shot up


5 posted on 09/07/2015 2:59:21 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: don-o

FYI


6 posted on 09/07/2015 3:00:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Elderberry

I don’t pretend to know what did or did not happen and agree that there are some concerns about what occurred afterwards.

With that said - I would ask you to agree that even attending such an event hosted by a group like that is a defacto sign of support for a criminal organization. You can’t have it both ways.

I would not go to a Crips or Bloods BBQ or get-together - would you? If I did, would FReepers advocating the side of the bikers be sympathetic if I was accidently shot or laugh and say I got what I deserved? Honest question that deserves and honest answer.

While I share the constitutional due process concerns of many who have posted about this here on FR, I do not share their apparent opinion that everyone is completely innocent. The “hosts” and the other gang that showed up are purely criminal organizations. I would not belong to any “club” that associated with such an organization (in any way) because at some point my participation becomes consent or support.


7 posted on 09/07/2015 3:04:46 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: Nifster

So you are good with government violating a person’s rights as long as the person is someone you don’t like.


8 posted on 09/07/2015 3:05:01 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hello my dear lady. How are you doing?


9 posted on 09/07/2015 3:05:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: Nifster

Well stated and far more succinct than my analogy although there are some due process concerns -

FRegards


10 posted on 09/07/2015 3:06:52 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: volunbeer

MC aren’t all criminal organizations. Many are and many aren’t. But that’s for the gov’t to prove in a court of law. It doesn’t give them the right to kill people for being part of the MC just because they think they may be doing illegal things.


11 posted on 09/07/2015 3:06:53 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: volunbeer

Do you want unwise to be illegal?

Do unwise choices merit forfeit of due process and constitutional rights?


12 posted on 09/07/2015 3:08:12 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: for-q-clinton

The two main groups that caused this conflict are purely criminal organizations. If you disagree than further discussion is pointless.

I think there are concerns with due process that arose out of this nasty incident - but I (and probably many others) will still assert that the majority of the blame lies with the bikers either through direct participation in a criminal organization or indirect support of such an organization.

Insert Crip’s or Blood’s instead of an OMG name and read all the postings.....


13 posted on 09/07/2015 3:12:02 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: ctdonath2
Nobody has been charged. Texas law allows arrest and detention on an accusation only (this is common), with upwards of six months between that, and being charged. Of course, a person can be investigated and charged before being first arrested.

The procedure of having a judge review the evidence state in the warrant is supposed to weed out arrest without probable cause; with examining trials being a backstop in case the magistrate judge is a rubberstamp. It appears Texas law allows "probable cause" without evidence anyway, as the statute has a "magic words" provision.

A good number of the accused have been trying to get out from under the cloud of arrest, using more than one legal path. All the judges encountered so far say probable cause exists, based on the statements in the cookie cutter affidavit.

14 posted on 09/07/2015 3:12:09 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Elderberry
To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup.

One of the tv news stations had a pledge of sorts on it's FB page that they were totally in support of the LEOs and asking for people to pledge/like them. Talk about unfair and unbalanced.

15 posted on 09/07/2015 3:12:21 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Nifster
I see puppy dogs in the clouds

Yes. Yes, I can see that.

16 posted on 09/07/2015 3:13:01 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: easternsky
Undercover heavily involved in this, which may be what started the whole thing.

Bingo. "They" instigated the whole thing or why else would they have been all over the parking lot and roof tops waiting for the signal.

17 posted on 09/07/2015 3:15:26 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: volunbeer
The two main groups that caused this conflict are purely criminal organizations.

Group 1 = BATF and Group 2 = Waco Sheriff's Dept.

18 posted on 09/07/2015 3:18:50 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Cboldt
All the judges encountered so far say probable cause exists, based on the statements in the cookie cutter affidavit.

For those who need to get up to speed on that. Same identical affidavit with only then names changed x 177.

Waco Shooting Probable Cause Affidavit

19 posted on 09/07/2015 3:18:57 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I am doing OK thanks to my dear husband and the dear Lord (they often work together). Minor surgery tomorrow to have a stent --- and maybe also a stone --- taken out of my ureter (ouch).

Sorry for the TMI. Thank you for kindly caring.

20 posted on 09/07/2015 3:19:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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