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In Houston Shooting of two Robbers, Reporter says to "give them what they want"
Gun Watch ^ | 17 July, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/19/2015 5:14:23 AM PDT by marktwain



A reporter covered the defensive shooting in Houston, where marksman, clerk, and brother of the owner, Dien Tu, shot and killed two of three armed robbers.  The robbers were attempting to rob the store and had pistol whipped his brother in law, Brian.   The reporter at khou.com gives this advice:

Police advise clerks in this situation to give in to the demands of robber.
It is not clear if this is actual advice from police in the area, or vaguely remembered propaganda by the reporter.  The store owner sees things a little differently, as reported in the next sentence:
The owner here said everyone is armed because of how dangerous the area is.

In the picture above, Dien Tu is seen aiming at the fleeing robbers.  Note the reinforced posts to prevent smash and grab burglaries and robberies.  They also provide some protection from car bombs.

The comments on the story at khou.com show that people think the reporter's advice is foolish.  From Kurt Kirkpatrick:
Do cops give in to criminals who flash a gun? Why not, if that's their advice to others? I'm thinking the reporter is shooting from the hip.
From Sandy Wheeler Coryell
One, or, two for the good guys! I think every employee should be armed and taught how to use a gun, and when.
This was the right time. If everyone just gives over the money, there is no reason for the robbers to stop. If every employee is armed, they might think twice about robbing the place. And there should NEVER be just one employee in a store.
KUDOS to this guy. Two more pieces of scum off the streets
From Homstad House:
If you just give them money, they know where to come next time.in 

The store had been robbed on July 1, just 10 days before.   From abc13.com:
The owner says his store was robbed July 1 so he and his brother were prepared with guns to fight back. The clerk in that robbery was beaten so badly, he hasn't been able to return to work.
I cannot help but wonder if Dien has been in some tight spots before.  He acted quickly and decisively in a difficult situation.   A previous story refers to Dien as "wearing a gun".  Might it be that he was openly carrying in the store?  No holster is evident on this image, taken four hours later.  Open carry on one's property has always been legal in Texas.


The robbers have yet to be identified, but it is likely that cutting their criminal careers short has prevented hundreds, if not thousands of future crimes.

Perhaps their deaths will serve as a lesson to others.   If the crime rate in dangerous urban areas is to be brought down, the rule of law needs to be reinforced and internalized by the culture in the area.  Young men need to be taught that crime is not a respectable or worthwhile career option.  Responsible actions by armed citizens are part of that process.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; dien; gunfight; houston; texas; tx
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I wonder if Dien Tu fought in Vietnam?
1 posted on 07/19/2015 5:14:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Clerk Shoots 2 Robbers, 2 More Wanted...

Does that mean there's a daily bag limit of 4?

2 posted on 07/19/2015 5:18:48 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: marktwain
The reporter at khou.com gives this advice: Police advise clerks in this situation to give in to the demands of robber.

Because armed robbers' lives matter?

/s

3 posted on 07/19/2015 5:21:24 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: marktwain; SJackson; Nachum

Probably not: I’m 59 - was 16-17 when Vietnam fighting closed down. A vet of Vietnam would be anywhere from 5 to 22 years older than me.

He was - most likely - the son of Vietnamese civilians who fled the communist invaders in 72-73, after Kerry negotiated in Paris with the enemy to lose the war we won in the battles.


4 posted on 07/19/2015 5:22:40 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Zeppo

Considering the crime and demographic correlation, this probably IS the rationale.


5 posted on 07/19/2015 5:23:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Good shooting, Citizen. Civilization thanks you.


6 posted on 07/19/2015 5:24:31 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: marktwain
That's right - give the criminals what they're asking for. 'Cause if you pull a gun on me you're just asking to get shot.

CC

7 posted on 07/19/2015 5:26:37 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: marktwain

Looks just about the right age to have caught the last few years.

IMHO


8 posted on 07/19/2015 5:26:50 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Hot Tabasco

There is no bag limit in Texas when urban ferals are on your property threatening you. This was why the DemocRATs in Texas were so adamant about Castle Doctrine legislation not being passed. Too many of their future constituents would be Texas Department of Corrections residents or six feet under.


9 posted on 07/19/2015 5:27:06 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: marktwain

In Neew York it is ingrained. When mugged, give the guy what he wants. It is out of the question to own a firearm


10 posted on 07/19/2015 5:28:03 AM PDT by stanne
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Dien Tu love it when a plan comes together ?


11 posted on 07/19/2015 5:33:44 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

I saw what you did there. :)


12 posted on 07/19/2015 5:40:57 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: marktwain

If you are unarmed and unable to defend yourself than by all means, give them what they want. It would be foolish to do otherwise. This guy was not unarmed, he was armed and as part owner it was his money, he knew what to do and he did it.


13 posted on 07/19/2015 5:44:28 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: marktwain

Dien should run for Mayor of Houston.


14 posted on 07/19/2015 5:45:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: marktwain

I was working in a strip mall clinic in east Baltimore around 1998 when a liquor store clerk a few stores down from us shot and killed a “youth” who was robbing his store. I don’t recall if the perp dragged himself outside or the clerk did, but the body lay out on the sidewalk for hours until police were called in by a concerned citizen.

The clerk/store owner said this was the right thing to do, so others would see what happens when you try to rob a store at gunpoint.

There were shouts of racism, local protests (I don’t know if Al Sharpton’s people were called in) but the Baltimore prosecutor finally determined the shooting was fully justified, no charges were pressed, business went on as usual.

“Heads on pikes” seem to be a reasonable next step to prevent robberies.

In all seriousness, what I’d really like to see is a “Citizens Response Award,” where people who stand up the terror (robbery, rape, carjacking included) are recognized publicly at an awards ceremony, given a box of self-defense ammunition (the manufacturers could get in on this to their benefit), given a gold-embossed certificate suitable for framing (or framed), and a gift coupon good for a couple of hours of range time at a local indoor or outdoor range/gun club with instruction appropriate to their current level of marksmanship.

“Give them what they want”? Mozambique. Two to the chest, one to the head. Then move on as if nothing has happened, secure in the knowledge you’ve rid society of the kind of sociopathic scum that would threaten harm to useful people.


15 posted on 07/19/2015 5:47:27 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: marktwain

They don’t always get what they want, but sometimes they get what they need.


16 posted on 07/19/2015 5:47:51 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: bigredkitty1

“This was why the DemocRATs in Texas were so adamant about Castle Doctrine legislation not being passed. Too many of their future constituents would be Texas Department of Corrections residents or six feet under.”

Probably safe to assume that Rand Paul has the same problem with the Castle Doctrine, as the FELONS that he thinks will vote Republican if just given back the right to vote won’t be quite as numerous (although that can be compensate by multiple voting, since Rand also has a big issue with Voter ID).


17 posted on 07/19/2015 5:50:31 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: marktwain

Someone who tries to steal your hard-earned money with a weapon has to be interpreted as meaning to cause you harm, so it is fair for you to treat them the way this clerk did.

That reporter wants us to cower to thugs. I say give them what they intended to give us. Their life is forfeit when they act this way.


18 posted on 07/19/2015 5:52:50 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: marktwain

The left wants the criminal class to waltz right in and take what is “rightfully “ theirs. It wants to take guns from non-violent people and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


19 posted on 07/19/2015 5:54:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: marktwain
Police advise clerks in this situation to give in to the demands of robber.

There was a time when this was good advice, it has long since passed.

20 posted on 07/19/2015 5:59:48 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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