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Black People Used to Shoot Back and It Wasn't a Big Deal
The Political Outcast ^ | June 27, 2015 | Mark Horne

Posted on 06/29/2015 10:10:43 AM PDT by Fay

A few days ago I pointed out that it was wrong to act like it was controversial for African Americans to consider arming themselves in order to protect themselves from violent attack. The Second Amendment is for black people, white people, and every other color.

Since then Reason.com has uncovered some material about the civil rights movement:

Dylann Roof’s racially motivated murders of nine black churchgoers have brought predictable calls for new restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms. How ironic this is we shall soon see.

Advocates of gun rights argue that the best way to prevent such atrocities is for would-be victims to arm themselves; killers will break gun laws without hesitation (though Roof obtained his .45-caliber handgun legally), so legal obstacles to gun ownership only impede the innocent. Relying on the police for defense is futile—or worse.

This argument persuades few who are committed to “gun control” (a misnomer because law-abiding people, not guns, are subject to control). But those who demand it while grieving over the racist massacre at Emanuel AME church in Charleston, S.C., ought to understand that “time and again, guns have proven pivotal to the African American quest for freedom.”

That sentence is found in Charles E. Cobb Jr.’s important book That Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible.

It turns out that the civil rights movement involved people who chose when it was best to suffer and when it was appropriate to shoot back. They didn’t support civil war but they didn’t feel required to get shot at and not respond.

As one Mississippi activist and farmer, Hartman Turnbow, put it after scaring off night riders with his gun, “I wasn’t being non-nonviolent; I was just protecting my family.”

Guns of course pervaded the South before the civil rights movement, and this was true of black culture too. Moreover, many black war veterans came home with guns, determined to win their freedom. As the black freedom movement emerged after World War II and the Korean War, it was only natural for guns to be seen as important in the defense against the daily threat posed by the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacists.

Cobb’s book is filled with accounts of incidents in which brutal racists were persuaded to retreat by black men armed and ready to defend themselves and their families.

So why would all this be forgotten? It shouldn’t be!


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1 posted on 06/29/2015 10:10:43 AM PDT by Fay
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To: Fay
Cobb’s book is filled with accounts of incidents in which brutal racists were persuaded to retreat by black men armed and ready to defend themselves and their families.

Such incidents of self-defense brought about some of the first "gun control" laws - prohibitions on carrying firearms without a license/permit issued by a local authority. And guess who couldn't get a permit from the local sheriff or court clerk?

Later, governments realized that such laws, strictly enforced on everyone, were a good way to try to control the ENTIRE law-abiding population, not just "them trouble-makin' n---ers".

2 posted on 06/29/2015 10:20:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: WayneS

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/cramer/racist_roots.htm


3 posted on 06/29/2015 10:21:38 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Fay

Every law abiding citizen should have the same (uninfringed) right to keep and bear arms.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 10:22:18 AM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: Fay
The Racist Roots of Gun Control.

SYG, Castle Doctrine and other self defense laws have roots in the push back against Jim Crow laws. Yet today's “black leaders” line up to help the Progressives destroy all of the progress made to secure black families.

The Castle Doctrine & Stand Your Ground – The Trial of Dr. Ossian Sweet TheConservativeTreeHouse

No Guns for Negroes Part One (video 10:00)

No Guns for Negroes Part Two (video 9:45)

Equal Gun Rights (video 0:52)

The Never Again Campaign (video 0:30)

The NRA Was Created To Protect Freed Slaves From The KKK & The Democratic Party, and Everyone Else From a Tyrannical Government LiveLeaks video 3:08

5 posted on 06/29/2015 10:40:41 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: WayneS

Condi Rice has told a personal story of watching her father involved in such an action.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/condoleeza-rice-gun-rights-important-free-speech


6 posted on 06/29/2015 10:50:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Fay

I briefly worked for a gun dealer. Some of our best customers were older black men. They signed on the dotted line for a 30 year mortgage, and by the time they made the last payment they found their retirement home now sat in the middle of a war zone where civilization had ended.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 11:46:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fay

Ironically, it was the Black Panthers, then the darling of the left, and now its folk heroes, who were some of the most strident proponents of the right to bear arms.


8 posted on 06/29/2015 11:55:22 AM PDT by Daveinyork (I)
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To: Daveinyork

“Ironically, it was the Black Panthers...”

And in response, it was Ronald Reagan who called for (and signed) legislation to ban open carry in California. Ironically.


9 posted on 06/29/2015 11:59:42 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

lol, nobody’s perfect.


10 posted on 06/29/2015 12:11:29 PM PDT by Daveinyork (I)
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To: Daveinyork

There were other things that Reagan messed up on. We need to remember that - that nobody’s perfect - when it comes election time.


11 posted on 06/29/2015 12:15:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

Yes, he picked GHWB as his running mate, and the man who would follow him as President.


12 posted on 06/29/2015 12:35:13 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Any Senator who votes for TPA is disqualified to be President - Donald Trump)
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