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4-year-old attacked by dad's police dog in Hesperia (lost foot)
abc7.com ^ | February 12, 2015 | Rob McMillan

Posted on 02/12/2015 8:31:47 PM PST by chrisinoc

HESPERIA, Calif. (KABC) -- A 4-year-old boy's foot had to be amputated after he was attacked by his father's police dog in Hesperia.

Authorities say a neighbor heard a child screaming in the backyard of a house Sunday afternoon and called 911. That neighbor also shouted for help from others nearby.

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The K9 will probably have to be put down. Can't be on the police force or even be sent home retired with another handler due to liability issues.
1 posted on 02/12/2015 8:31:47 PM PST by chrisinoc
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The father should be terminated from the force. Don't know what happened but this is crazy. Fire him and let him live with this for the rest of his life, and he will be reminded everyday when he looks at his son.
2 posted on 02/12/2015 8:43:26 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: chrisinoc

It is not necessarily the dog’s fault. These dogs (depending on what it was trained to do) have to be handled like loaded guns, and leaving one in the yard, unsupervised with a child is just nuts. The handler needs to be fired and prosecuted for reckless child endangerment.

Unfortunately, I have known too many cop dog handlers that have absolutely no understanding of what they are doing.

Unfortunately, you are probably right about the dog.


3 posted on 02/12/2015 8:49:40 PM PST by LaRueLaDue (Remember- allah is the Charles Manson of deities, and mohammed is his Tex Watson. - LysolMotorola)
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To: Fungi; MinuteGal

“Fire him and let him live with this for the rest of his life, and he will be reminded everyday when he looks at his son.”

It was an accident, my FRiend. You sound as vicious as the dog. That’s such a good idea of yours; fire the Dad and deprive the son of a father bringing in a good income. Bright idea on your part.


4 posted on 02/12/2015 8:52:00 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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Well, I guess he knows his dog and I guess he knows what could happen. The dogs are trained to be vicious and it could have been prevented. Touche.


5 posted on 02/12/2015 8:58:59 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: Fungi
let him live with this for the rest of his life, and he will be reminded everyday when he looks at his son.

I don't see how his father wouldn't

6 posted on 02/12/2015 8:59:29 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: chrisinoc

Gosh, this is awful!


7 posted on 02/12/2015 9:13:00 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: chrisinoc

You should read some of the posts at the original story site. Stupid people trying to make the dog the victim. That sweet little doggie chewed the poor kid’s foot off. It MUST be put down.

What is wrong with people? Apparently they think animals are more important than children. Could they be liberals?


8 posted on 02/12/2015 9:21:55 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Fungi

“The dogs are trained to be vicious and it could have been prevented.”

Your statement is incorrect.

I have worked with police dogs and handlers. These dogs are trained to be aggressive ON COMMAND and to STOP their aggression ON COMMAND. Most commands are spoken by the handlers in German so that there will be no “accidental” orders from “pain-in-the-butt bystanders”. There is a BIG difference between aggression and viciousness. If a dog is ordered to take someone down and does it, THAT is aggression. He then stops being aggressive on command. Viciousness is if the dog continues the attack after being commanded to stop. Police dogs who exhibit viciousness are a liability and should not be placed on the street.

Any dog that chews the foot off of a child is a vicious dog and should be put down.


9 posted on 02/12/2015 9:55:48 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: chrisinoc

The police dog in my town goes home with the handler, but is not considered part of the family and is kept separate from the family.


10 posted on 02/12/2015 11:56:37 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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Growing up my best friend’s neighbor came home from the military with his service dog. He and the dog went to work with the local police dept. The dog lived in the house but also had an outside pen. The enclosure was double fenced and kept securely locked. We children were all warned not to approach his dog if he was not present.


11 posted on 02/13/2015 12:08:19 AM PST by kalee
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To: Fungi

Oh be quiet. You sound as rabid as the dog.


12 posted on 02/13/2015 12:11:35 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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They should outlaw Police Dogs...


13 posted on 02/13/2015 12:57:30 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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agree 100% but this took place in California...police unions wont allow this POS to be fired.


14 posted on 02/13/2015 3:45:26 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: chrisinoc

The dog should have never been in the situation. Attack-trained dogs are not supposed to be treated like “loving pets”.


15 posted on 02/13/2015 4:36:35 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Wonder if Sheriff Joe would take the dog for his Maricopa Animal Shelter and Haven. He offered to take another dog that ripped off a kid's face and the judge accepted the offer.
16 posted on 02/13/2015 6:38:24 AM PST by chrisinoc
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To: Fungi

*Sigh*. Again with the total ignorance and illogic.

Police and MIL cannot handle a “vicious” dog, ever. They CANNOT train a dog to “be vicious”. They either are, or are not.

They need sharp, stable dogs to carry out COMMANDS - both to bite and hold, and release, and return, etc. (BTW, they BITE AND HOLD, not “rip apart” - unless somehow the perp gets really unruly himself and that just happens. Vicious dogs maul and rip apart. Police are meant to just seize.)


17 posted on 02/13/2015 7:13:54 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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18 posted on 02/13/2015 7:16:18 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: 43north

I agree. I have spent a lot of time training these types of dogs, old line dobes, german shepherds, malinois, etc. A good one will be social with everyone, but bite on command immediately, then ‘out’ on command, calmly and immediately. One that is vicious is not suitable for a police or military working dog.

One thing you did make a mistake on is commands in German. They are often in German because Schutzhund, IPO, etc competitions use German commands because they originated there. Many of the Malinois come from Holland, and they are taught commands in Dutch, mine are taught in English, cause, that’s the language here. German trainers train in German not English. The dogs cannot be given accidental orders, they listen to their handler, he it the top dog.

For example, if I am home, my malinois will totally ignore any commands, even from my wife, or son. If my 9 year old granddaughter takes her out, she will obey her commands, a stranger, not a chance in hell. That is a common misconception, but dogs are normally trained in the language of the trainer, other than like I said, it is common to use German in sport dogs, because it’s traditional. German trainers don’t train in Cantonese, or Spanish. The dogs only respond to their family. Mine is 3.5 years old, has done bitework since 6 months and is easily handled safely by my grandchildren, but if I am around strangers, who are known to do stupid things around dogs, she gets a muzzle. I think she’s safe, but that’s not something to take a chance on.

You are absolutely correct that aggressive and vicious are completely different. K9 units don’t tolerate vicious, unpredictable animals, a social animal that is well-trained is what they are looking for. The Mals and dutch shepherds tend to be that way, but love to bite, it is more of a sport with them.


19 posted on 02/13/2015 10:20:28 AM PST by nobamanomore
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I don't see how the police officer can be faulted here......Since the article states he had just gotten home from work, the logical assumption is that the kennel mentioned was the container used to transport the dog while in the vehicle.

And since dogs have to poop and pee just like us, the place to do it was the backyard.......

Rialto police say the officer had just gotten home at the time of the incident. The dog was in a kennel, and the officer let the dog out of the kennel and into the backyard. He closed the sliding glass door to keep the dog outside, and then went upstairs to change.

The boy was in the living room, and at some point, he went to look for his mother and walked into the backyard.

Now what set the dog off, nobody knows..........

20 posted on 02/13/2015 10:39:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Sy: "Beavers are like Ninjas, they only come out at night and they're hard to find")
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