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Cigarette Smuggling Undermines Tax Revenue
Capitol Confidential ^
| 5/17/2014
| Michael LaFaive
Posted on 05/19/2014 7:20:11 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE :”
In New York, almost 57 percent of all cigarettes consumed in the state were also illicit. This has profound effects on the revenue generated by state (and sometimes local) government. “ 57% ???
That's a heck of a loss.
Maybe they need to double that tax to make up for it.
I know where the jobs are.
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posted on
05/19/2014 7:52:00 PM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. I won. ')
To: ansel12
The equipment is much better today. My handcrafted cigarettes (tax and chemical free) are indistinguishable from their commercial counterparts, except for the obvious lack of harsh chemicals and the smooth enjoyment of screwing the government(s) out of taxes.
I just don't sell or give them away.
/johnny
To: ansel12
The wealthy, upper middle class and educated, have largely quit smoking.The urban poor aren't buying $20 cigars.
/johnny
To: doc1019
I can roll my own for about $11 a carton ... Didn't the federales jack up the tax on loose tobacco to match the cigarette price a few years ago?
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:00:01 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
To: MichCapCon
Art Laffer is laughing at you high tax states.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:02:05 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
To: KarlInOhio
Yep, and that is why it is now $11 carton.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:06:43 PM PDT
by
doc1019
To: MeshugeMikey
11 bucks a carton would save me and enormous amount of money.I remember when I was in the service. I could go to the commissary and get generics for $2.50 a carton...
To: MichCapCon
“Cigarette Smuggling Undermines Tax Revenue”
So does driving the speed limit.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:08:41 PM PDT
by
Rebelbase
(Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
To: JRandomFreeper
I don’t get your point, you don’t think that smoking is largely disappearing among the higher income and better educated Americans, because expensive cigars still get sold?
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:10:56 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
To: Antoninus II
The cheapest I remember cigs being was 27 cents...when I was a teenager.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:15:13 PM PDT
by
MeshugeMikey
( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
To: ansel12
Low income, poorly educated Americans aren't buying $20 cigars, and that business is booming.
/johnny
To: ansel12
We did that in the 60s, but hardly anyone stayed with it back then.I remember rolling cigarettes back in the mid 1960s when they went up from 25¢ a pack to 35¢ a pack.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:28:15 PM PDT
by
Inyo-Mono
(NRA)
To: JRandomFreeper
You aren’t making sense, you argument against the facts that smoking is mostly concentrated among the poor and uneducated, is that $20.00 cigars still get sold?
Why wouldn’t they get sold, no one said that everyone who isn’t poor and uneducated has quit smoking, of the small percentage left who do, it makes for a sizable number in a population the size of America, plenty to buy your $20.00 cigars.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:28:20 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
To: ansel12
Do you have demographics showing that smoking is mostly concentrated among the poor and uneducated?
Or is that another of the 87% of statistics made up on the spot by a self-righteous liberal?
/johnny
To: Inyo-Mono
I remember rolling cigarettes back in the mid 1960s when they went up from 25¢ a pack to 35¢ a pack. Yep, with the filters and the whole bit, I wish I remembered the name of the top notch machine.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:33:32 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
To: JRandomFreeper
Wow, I didn't expect to see this hostility and emotion, it's just statistics, it isn't an attack, and it doesn't call for a personal attack.
Gallup
CDC
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:42:28 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
To: ansel12
I just asked a question, I didn't attack anyone. If I attack someone, there will be a 'comment removed by moderator' spot in a thread.
Looks like the more educated GED recipients are the most likely smokers.
/johnny
To: MichCapCon
“Cigarette Smuggling Undermines Tax Revenue”
DUH....
Higher taxes leads to higher tax avoidance.
They figured this out in ancient Rome, but the average Democrat still hasn’t seen the light.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:47:15 PM PDT
by
tcrlaf
(Q)
To: JRandomFreeper
Couldn’t help but notice the hostility of your questioning what I thought was pretty common knowledge.
Anyway, the evidence you wanted is posted now, you are welcome.
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:52:19 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
To: MichCapCon
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posted on
05/19/2014 8:55:18 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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