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Health Insurance Is Not Health Care
Coach is Right ^ | 11/19/13 | Michael D. Shaw

Posted on 11/19/2013 10:06:45 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

With media attention laser-focused on the disastrous rollout of the Affordable Care Act (ACA or Obamacare), it is understandable that other matters related to health care have been overlooked.

Since the ACA is largely concerned with insurance, the notion that affordable insurance equates with affordable health care has caused an unfortunate conflation of insurance and care. Moreover, this verbal shell game has been proffered to hide the sad fact that health care in the US is anything but affordable. In fact, Americans pay at least 50 percent more than all other countries for health care. Even worse, on the whole, our outcomes are mediocre, at best.

More comprehensive insurance, without major changes in how this care is dispensed, will only increase the costs. The public has apparently swallowed the big lie that...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: healthcare; insurance; medicine; obamacare

1 posted on 11/19/2013 10:06:45 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

What I’ve been posting all along. It should be UACA - UnAffordable Care Act.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 10:10:44 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
"Since the ACA is largely concerned with insurance. . . ."

Actually, the Trojan Horse called the ACA was, and is, concerned with redistribution of wealth. As Senator Baucus, himself, said back in 2010:

Baucus: "It is a shift, a leveling . . . ."

America's liberty and prosperity for over 200 years was based on another idea, for the earnings of hardworking citizens were protected from the coercive hand of government by a written Constitution which did not allow the Baucuses of the world such "taking" power. Hear Samuel Adams:

"Is it now high time for the people of this country to explicitly declare whether they will be free men or slaves. It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice.” - Samuel Adams

And:

“The utopian schemes of leveling and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. These ideas are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government unconstitutional.” - Samuel Adams

3 posted on 11/19/2013 10:22:54 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: SkyDancer

It’s been my tag line since they shoved the bill down our throats!


4 posted on 11/19/2013 10:31:37 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L

Good! I love to tell my Lib friends the same thing. They were all gigglie when ACA was passed. I then explained to them the consequences. They’re numb.


5 posted on 11/19/2013 10:35:19 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It should not be called the healthcare act, but by doing it, they reveal their true intentions: taking over all of healthcare, not just the insurance.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 10:38:15 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

When they find out what’s in the bill, they will start calling it ZEROCARE.


7 posted on 11/19/2013 10:44:09 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If you want to reduce cost, mandate catastrophic health care insurance with a very large deductible then charge negotiated prices for all routine care with the bearer required to pay all routine medical bills.

Until people pay for their care they will not make rational healthcare choices and mandated catastrophic coverage will prevent providers from passing costs of large unpaid bill.


8 posted on 11/19/2013 10:47:56 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Obamacare is not insurance, its just more wealth transfer.


9 posted on 11/19/2013 10:53:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Oldpuppymax

It sounds counter-intuitive, but the secret to bringing down the cost of health care is to make sure that consumers are paying for more of their health care costs out of pocket. How many folks are getting non-life threatening procedures and medications just because “insurance will cover it”? Botox, Viagra, etc. How many folks will still want the procedure or medication if they have to pay for it rather than some insurance plan?

Once consumer demand for medical services drops, doctors will find that they have to reduce costs to stay in business.

If the market were truly free and devoid of artificial influencers like insurance, I believe that doctor’s fees would be no more than non-union auto mechanic fees.

It’s all a pipe dream of course because without tort reform, doctor’s would be unable to make enough to cover their liability insurance.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 12:18:12 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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... make sure that consumers are paying for more of their health care costs out of pocket ..

True. I know people that selected employer provided coverage strictly by which had the lowest co-pay. It never sunk into their head that their premium was higher, they just didn't want to pay anything when they went to the doctor.

11 posted on 11/19/2013 1:35:08 PM PST by ken in texas
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To: dangerdoc

That’s the conservative “fix” or alternative:

Catastropic coverage with deductible premiums.
HSAs, also deductible, cumulative and inheritable.
Interstate insurance markets.
Tort reform.


12 posted on 11/19/2013 1:37:04 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldpuppymax
In fact, Americans pay at least 50 percent more than all other countries for health care. Even worse, on the whole, our outcomes are mediocre, at best.

Lies.

13 posted on 11/19/2013 1:41:30 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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