Posted on 10/01/2013 6:58:19 AM PDT by CSM
On this day, I make the pledge that when my employer drops my health insurance, I will not join the exchange. When the IRS fines me, I will not pay that fine! When that results in the IRS issuing a warrant for that fine, I will not comply! When they knock on my door to enforce the warrant, I will not answer! Eventually, they will kick in my door to enforce the warrant and at that time many will pay a heavy price! The "tolerant and compassionate left" must be willing to shoot me dead to enforce their utopian dreams!
The Government must always be willing to enforce their utopian ideas with the force of a gun and their confiscation of my physical being is a very bright line. I will pay a heavy price, but I am hopeful that price will be paid to the benefit of my progeny!
I will not succomb to slavery!
Hear, hear! Our founding fathers fought too hard and sacrificed too much for our precious liberties and freedoms for us to just give them up to the tyrants of our day.
May it be slow for those who choose to knock.
I will not serve my public servants ever, for any reason.
Many people out here have the same sentiments.
They’ll just attach your wages.
It will never get that far because the only way the Senate could get the Individual mandate passed is by stripped the power of the IRS to use any of their normal enforcement mechanisms to collect the fines/taxes. The only thing the IRS can do is send you a nasty letter every once in while saying, "You owe X dollars for unpaid Obamacare fines/taxes". They can also take any overpayments or refunds due to pay toward the fines. But beyond that, nothing.
I dunno. I’m retired. (last march) We bought healthcare when I retired. I bought it to protect against financial risk. I’m sure we make to much (even while being retired) to qualify for a subsidy. So I’m not participating in obamacare, but I am managing risk. For me that’s the purpose of health insurance.
You imagine a shootout with you in your redoubt. The feds don’t want to get shot, they’ll either just attach your wages or pick you up in the parking lot at work or the grocery store.
I do admire your spirit.
I take that pledge.
But Before they kick down my door, I go guerrilla.
A good offense is the best defense.
Gene has, however, already thought this issue through. He plans to adjust his "quarterly estimated payments to ensure I do not have a tax refund, which I understand to be the only source from which the IRS can extract any penalties that I refuse to pay voluntarily."
This, Livingston said, is actually a strategy that might just work. For that to happen, the tax filer would need to be cognizant of the estimated tax penalty, which the IRS can levy against filers that pay far too few taxes. But keeping that in mind, dodging a refund could mean dodging the mandate fine.
"The needle you would have to thread to execute this is making sure you've paid enough taxes to avoid the estimated tax penalty," Livingston said, "But not so much that you would get a refund.”
If there's no tax refund, where else can the IRS get its $95? Typically, the IRS does have a number of steps by which to recoup unpaid taxes. It can garnish your wages, for example, or, in rare cases, seize property. But with the health mandate, the law's drafters specifically barred the agency from any of those more aggressive tactics.
"In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section," Section 1501 of the Affordable Care Act reads, "Such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure."
If a penalty does not come out of a refund, it does not fully disappear. Instead, it gets carried over to next year's tax filings and held on the filer's account. The Internal Revenue Service is also allowed to charge interest on any unpaid tax penalty (More on that in the very thrilling Sec. 6601 of the Internal Revenue Service Code). The rate currently hovers around 3 percent.
So the tax penalties accumulate, and the interest goes up and up. But even in an extreme example, where someone doesn't pay the health law's penalties for decades, the powers that the Internal Revenue Service has to collect the unpaid fines don't change.
"The IRS remains very clearly limited in its ability to collect the penalty," Livingston says, "And the accumulation over time does not change those legal limitations."
Ditto and Here Here.
I’m with you!
Let me just say this.... not at least carrying catastrophic health care insurance is just dumb... if you have any money at all that would be at risk.
Yep... I agree and understand. Also.. you could buy a new car for $1500. But the reality is now health care costs for serious procedures can bankrupt a person. I agree with you why the cost is so much. But I also realize I can’t do anything about it except vote for my representatives. Understanding where we are and managing risk is always a smart thing to do.
The left works in baby steps. Minor penalty now, but later maybe, no passport renewal, garnishments who knows what. Pretty dang scary the power our government has been given/taken.
We’re talking about the FEDERAL government here..
They can do whatEVER they want.
Attach a lien to your home. Foreclose on it the same as if you haven’t paid your property taxes...
They’ll put us out on the street(or worse)if we don’t fork over.
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