Posted on 05/01/2013 6:17:21 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Republicans will never win Hispanic votes. The sooner the Grand Old Party establishment (GOPe) acknowledges this the better off this country will be.
The gulf between how Republicans think Hispanics see the world; and how Hispanics actually do see the world is much too large.
The only areas of general agreement between the GOPe and Hispanics are their shared disapproval of Gay “marriage” and abortion. “..these issues are about as important as whether Arbor Day will be celebrated this year, there isn’t much mileage to be gained from these small agreements.
The media fueled mantra of “faith and Family” as the core of the Hispanic community is as specious as the myth of the “conservative Black family.”
Both are false hopes offered by the Left to a Republican establishment eager to find a way to sell illegal alien amnesty and a larger “social safety net” to its base. A new Public Opinion Strategies (POS) poll crashes into the false propaganda the GOPe dearly loves to use …. to sell the idea of wasting money and time trying to clone its sprinkling of Latino supporters.
“..survey shows that Latinos see “social and cultural issues” not as Republicans do, but as a road to getting all the free stuff they can from the greater society. In this regard, Hispanics appear to be much more practical than the GOPe.
Republicans have to acknowledge Romney’s 47% has grown to more than 50% so talk of “faith and family”, especially to the two groups that are largest users of abortion for family planning and whose leaders are four square in favor of Gay “marriage”, really don’t want the faith and
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
Not only are they not going to get Hispanic votes, they are going to lose their base, and they deserve to lose their base.
This is one dumb party.
How do you say, “faith”, “family” and “freebies” in Spanish? They sign up for every government program they can....everything published in Spanish for their convenience, of course...and know that with 10 pages of Juan Garcias in every major Texas phone book, they will never get caught.
The GOPe has been insulting to the social issues voters so, even if Hispanics were supportive of social issues, the GOPe would be unlikely to attract them as voters. If you want the Hispanic vote, you have to meet with Hispanics one-on-one, using technology or face-to-face meetings and events. You have to make it clear in simple terms how your party’s efforts will lead to a better life in an economic sense. Now that I think about it, that is how you get everyone’s vote, even the wild-eyed leftists. Even wild-eyed leftists love to eat and have a smart phone. If you make it clear that your approach makes that happen and your opponents’ approach is nothing more than greed at that voter’s expense, you can gather a lot of votes. Make it clear your party is a “party” and the other party is life in a mudhole—which it is.
OBOMBA SUCKS UP TO MEXICO The USDA brochure encourages food stamp fraud fraud, “You need not divulge information regarding your immigration status in seeking this benefit for your children.”
The stupid Rubio plan keeps this in place---exposing another lie by Rubio, that those getting amnesty are at the 'back of the line,' and that those applying from outside the country can't get food stamps.
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES Rand Paul stupidly said he "never" met an immigrant coming here for a government handout.
(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)
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AS FREEPER RARESTIA INSIGHTFULLY POSTED We need to have a law mandating an affidavit be attached to each and every law between Congress, the Senate, and up to the President’s desk that states that the law was drafted by a law maker and ONLY by a law maker, was read completely and understood by the law maker submitting the bill, is Constitutional by provisions outlined therein, and applies to every American, including the law makers themselves.
This BS with outside entities and legal groups drafting laws, handing them to Representatives and Senators to bring up on the floor without knowing whats in them is complete tyranny. We did not elect these shadow law groups, we elected our Representatives and Senators. This is complete and total failure of the American system of Republicanism.
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COMMENTS Clearly vote-crazed pols are prostrate in obeisance, taking orders from foreign agents cunningly attempting to undermine US ntl security on the pretext of "immigration reform." These foreign control agents present a clear and present danger to Americans....and must be stopped.
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Immigration reform is the gateway to terrorism. "Ethnic solidarity" is rearing its ugly head (think Boston bombers w/ a latino accent). US politicans are clearly colluding and conspiring with foreign agents to undermine US ntl security and placing Americans in danger.
Many wonder why the Tamerlan brothers---here 10 years---waited til now to launch terror. They finally got the word.
"It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us. So, all you "undocumented" terrorists, come on down--- invade the US, and bring bombs "
Does that presume government programs will be around forever ? We’ll all be conservatives when the money runs out.
When the money runs out, at least we’ll still have jobs.
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No we won’t. We are sending jobs out of the country as fast as we can.
We need to bring back American jobs now.
This is what I sent Numbers USA to fix the problem.
We all know the current immigration bill is a complete disaster.
Allow me to offer a quick framework for a better solution. Read past #1.
1. Anyone who enters or remains in this country illegally can never, ever become a U.S. citizen.
2. Those that are currently in this country have a 90 day grace period to accomplish the following:
a. Leave the country and apply for a legal means of re-entry.
1) This permits a path to citizenship (at the back of the line).
b. Remain in the country under a special work permit.
1) This option eliminates the potential to ever become a citizen.
2) Apply for the special work permit.
3) Document employer information on the work permit.
4) Day laborers are not eligible.
5) Employers will pay a fine for each year that you have worked for them.
6) The special work permit will last for the same amount of time that you have worked for the employer.
7) You must reapply for a special work permit if you change employers.
8) Children have 90 days after their 18th birthday or high school graduation (whichever is later) to leave the country or apply for a special work permit. Government voucher available to assist in the departure.
c. Remove your name from all government assistance programs.
d. Start paying income taxes but no Social Security or Medicare taxes (they would be permanently ineligible for the benefits.
1) They would be ineligible for income tax credits of any sort.
3. Elimination of anchor babies. Babies born in the U.S. to a non-citizen mother does not become a U.S. citizen. If the father is a citizen, he can apply for the child to become a naturalized citizen after a 3 year waiting period.
a. Eliminate government financial assistance programs for parents of current anchor babies.
4. Eliminate chain migration. Apply as a nuclear family. Other family members have no priority.
5. Eliminate the refugee program that has been so abused. Other countries can pick up the slack.
6. Eliminate the diversity immigration program.
7. Zero the immigration quota from known terrorist hot bed countries.
8. Create a permanent data base with biometrics for anyone who entered or stayed illegally.
a. All people entering legally for a temporary period become automatically entered into the data base and remain there if there is no exit by the proper time.
9. Zero the student visas from known terrorist hot bed countries and third world countries. (There are plenty of other places they can go to school.)
10. Secure the borders. Contracts to multiple small businesses for 50 mile increments of the borders (land and water). DoD evaluation team performs a one month evaluation period on random 50 mile sections of the border and gives an evaluation grade. Fail and the 50 mile section goes up within 30 days for contractor bids. (DoD, not DHS evaluation team.)
11. Any criminal conviction makes them ineligible for either citizenship or work permit.
a. This includes the use of fraudulent or stolen identification for any purpose.
12. No access to our legal system for deportees. (An appeal can be made only after leaving the country.)
13. Anyone that votes illegally is ineligible for either citizenship or work permit.
a. Anyone that votes illegally is immediately deported.
14. Drastically reduce legal immigration quotas for low or unskilled labor. (They are undercutting our poor and keeping them from rising up the ladder.)
15. Create an on-line job match up for those outside the country that want to get a special work permit. Also those that have a current work permit would be given access to this job match up if they became unemployed. After 120 days of unemployment, the work permit would expire. They would need to leave the country before that time to remain eligible for a future work permit.
16. Each member of Congress could “cure” 5 problem people per year. Not including criminals or illegal voters. Meant for situations beyond the control of the individual (flight cancelled for weather, etc.).
This gets most of them out of the shadows quickly, identifies and exacts a penalty from the employers, and separates the economic guests from those that want to be a citizen.
This gets the borders secured rather quickly and gets rid of the loopholes or programs that have been so abused is the past.
It also creates a large disincentive for any future illegal entry or overstay.
Employer fines can be graduated. Low fines for agriculture, higher fines for jobs that displace Americans and the highest fines for those that competed for contracts using illegal immigrants as an advantage.
This also keeps a flood of new voters off the rolls that may not have America’s best interests at the heart of their vote.
We are not a nation of immigrants! We are a nation of pioneers and guests that we choose to invite to join us in the pursuit of freedom and the defense of the Constitution.
In other words, he's a double idiot.
Hidden video: Democrats respond to GOP to use amnesty to win elections: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnXz_qZ5RE&feature=plcp
So I will. From now on I will call it The Rubio-Graham Amnesty Bill.
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I keep seeing your posts with this general point.
I keep high fiving you. :)
Spot on. Work permits is the only answer. The minute these people are granted amnesty will be the complete and final destruction of our country. They will never vote for less government. Only fools believe that.
The GOP-e doesn’t care about winning elections. They’re only concerned their country-club, check-pants and polo-shirt buddies get low-paid gardeners and pool boys.
Thanks.
We’re still in the minority, but growing.
Talk about a zero-sum-game. They are trying to ‘buy’ them off with shiny things, but GOPe’s shiny things are not as cool as rats shiny things.
That is for sure. Even if this bill doesn't pass, they will have lost much of their base for even trying to pass it.
The DC insiders do not want the base.
The DC insiders want two parties. One party for the cronies and one party for the serfs with no movement in between.
ironically this was hillary clinton’s thesis in college.
I would question that assertion.
A clever advertising campaign could poison the Democrat 'brand' among Hispanics for a generation.
Simply publicize on billboards and in Spanish language media the fact that voting for Democrats means that you want men to marry other men. Show photos of men holding hands and kissing. Have flaming gay male 'role models' state that they are Democrats because Democrats are making it easier for them to find male sex partners.
If done properly, things will work themselves out quickly enough.
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