Posted on 04/22/2013 11:26:33 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
Thanks to the editors at http://www.answeringmuslims.com/ here are some of the commands from Allah to Muslims on how they must treat non-Muslims.
Qur’an 3:32—Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah...
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Pretty soon we non-Muslims will take care of that discrepancy.
And compared with the Bible: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/JESUS.Vs.Muhammad.html
Sounds like the God of the Jews and Christians is not the same God as Allah inspite of what all the politically correct enemies within say.
allah, the fabrication of a mad, pig-o-phobe, pedophile, if anything, is the devil with another name.
Muslims use the multiple versions of the bible and the argument that it was compiled by human committees to bolster their claim that Judaism and Christianity have been ‘corrupted’. Young Muslims are taught this first at a very young age.
Anyone attempting to convert a Muslim will find this point and their revulsion to the idea of God having a Son as the most difficult to overcome.
bkmk
As one who has also evidenced unbelief in the Bible and scorn of the God of it, your input is not surprising. However, as regards the efficacy of objections to Bible versions, what negates their argument is that absolutely none of the Biblical mss, including those which antedate the Qur'an, concur with the Islamic contradictions of it.
In addition, the theory that the Bible was changed, so as to make Jesus the Son of God who died for our sins and rose again, would not simply require a few changes but almost a complete rewritting of the NT and substantial changes to the old.
Moreover, if the Catholic church was responsible for these then it was very neglectful when and if it had such power to make even small and easy changes that would give clear support for many of its teachings (calling elders "priests," praying to the departed, etc.)
This is what I know about islam: convert or die.
It has always been that way as it is today.
The same objections raised even by Jews.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2917768/posts
Look up Blasater1960’s posts.
I did not going to read all posts through, and though i see he was countered, yet i did not see the argument that the texts where changed, while Islam also believes the Torah was changed, and somewhat affirms the Injil, though there is wide spectrum of variance in the attitude towards the Bible among Muslims.
I didn’t see much of a counter to his posts; his challenges were pretty open and specific, and replies to them largely vague and conjecture-based.
That said, the Islamic opinion is derived from specific verses in the Quran, and that significantly narrows the spectrum of opinion amongst observant Muslims.
Regardless, the Qur'an depends upon the Scriptures, while Islam claims it was radically altered, yet it cannot produce the mss evidence needed to support its premise. In addition to problems with Qur'anic mss.
You and I would think that, but Muslims don’t. Part of the reason why they are so stubborn is because of the initial, early brainwashing.
They are not going to use any scripture they have deemed corrupt per the Quran to judge the Quran.
It’s circular reasoning, like most things religious.
The point is that having different Bible translations does not support the Islamic position that the Bible was changed to make Jesus the Son of God who died for us and rose again, nor as the same objections raised by Jews, while they also oppose your scorn of the God of the Bible.
Good night.
They don’t complain about different translations, they point out that different Bible versions have chapter omissions, additions, rearrangements and so on. The Muslims I’ve spoken to say that their belief is that the Quran is immune from this because their god ensures its protection.
And you invoke both for support in your own skewed view of the Bible and scorn for its God.
“And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves. “ (Luke 23:12)
That’s immaterial to the discussion.
Just reading Blasater1960’s challenges vividly showed me how many holes and unfulfilled prophecies exist in the whole arrangement. To that end, both Blasater1960’s and your spurious reasoning lend support to my views that the whole thing is man-made. Is this clear enough?
You were merely distracting from the discussion but I’m indulging you here just in case you really were sincere (although I doubt that).
So you are thinking of converting to Judaism or simply looking to justify your atheism? From what i have seen of the perverse reasoning behind the rants against God which atheists seem to be compelled to engage in based, upon the superior wisdom and omniscience of atheistic "brites," they are an argument against Godlessness.
You yourself (on this "pro-God" forum no less) can disparage prayer as "redundant nothingness ," and in your self righteousness indignation disallow any just reason for the Divine commands to annihilate Amalek and the like, and turn saving women as wives into having sex slaves, etc., and otherwise attack religion, but i see it as being part of the same antiChrist choir driven by a common need.
Care to share one or two?
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