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District's P.E. Teachers Average Tens of Thousands of Dollars More Than Math and Science Employees
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 3/2/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 03/05/2013 12:27:58 PM PST by MichCapCon

In the Wayne-Westland Community Schools, high school math teachers are the lowest paid as a group and make on average almost $25,000 less a year than the physical education teachers.

The high school science teachers make $11,000 less than the district’s gym teachers on average.

The salaries are set by a six-year teacher’s contract Wayne-Westland agreed to in 2008 and runs through 2014. The salary schedule determines pay solely by years of experience and education background.

On average, physical education teachers were the highest paid group and made $78,675 a year. Teacher gross salaries can also include pay for extracurricular activities, such as coaching a sports team or teaching a class during their break. High school science teachers made $67,564 and high school math teachers made $53,775.

Wayne-Westland School District Spokeswoman Jenny Johnson didn’t respond to a request for comment.

"This illustrates that school districts don’t take into consideration need when they determine teacher salaries,” said Michael Van Beek, education policy director at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. “It is based on longevity and college degrees. There are calls for more high quality math and more science teachers particularly at the high school level from all corners of the country. And this district and other districts like it are making it more difficult for themselves to attract and retain more high quality math and science teachers because they are willing to pay other teachers who aren’t in as high demand as those who are.

"There is a widespread agreement that they are going to need to reward quality math and science teachers," Van Beek said. "And under this system, they can’t do that."

The disparity in salaries for the fields of math and science is significant because of a national debate over the demand for more quality science and math teachers in the classroom. The National Education Association, the nation's largest teachers' union, has pledged to help get more teachers into those fields, but the union backs the single-salary schedule.

The issue is not restricted to just one district. In 2011 in the Troy Public Schools, seven gym teachers made more than an advanced placement biology teacher who was honored as a teacher of the year.

State Superintendent Mike Flanagan said earlier this year that all teachers should make $100,000 as part of a bigger solution to get higher quality math and science teachers.

A 2010 law signed by then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm requires school districts to use job performance as a “significant factor” in determining teacher pay. But nearly all districts still use a single salary schedule, in which pay is based almost entirely on years on the job and college credentials. A few have adopted a policy of paying their “highly effective” teachers

The data for the analysis was taken from the district’s transparency link on its web page where it listed all of the employees’ salaries for 2012.


TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: jennifergranholm; jennygrandstand; jennyjohnson; mathteachers; mea; michaelvanbeek; michigan; mikeflanagan; nea; peteachers; schools; science; teachers; teacherspay; troy; troypublicschools; union; waynewestland
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To: MichCapCon

“In the Wayne-Westland Community Schools, high school math teachers are the lowest paid as a group and make on average almost $25,000 less a year than the physical education teachers.”

It sounds like the math teachers are getting paid based on their capability...so what’s the problem?


21 posted on 03/05/2013 3:48:14 PM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: napscoordinator

Only a tiny fraction of gym coaches will ever coach a pro athlete. Most science and math teachers will teach far more people that are highly paid in the tech industry.

Math and Science are vastly more generators of wealth in this country than professional athletics.


22 posted on 03/05/2013 4:36:57 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: MichCapCon
The high school science teachers make $11,000 less than the district’s gym teachers on average. The salaries are set by a six-year teacher’s contract Wayne-Westland agreed to in 2008 and runs through 2014. The salary schedule determines pay solely by years of experience and education background. On average, physical education teachers were the highest paid group and made $78,675 a year. Teacher gross salaries can also include pay for extracurricular activities, such as coaching a sports team or teaching a class during their break. High school science teachers made $67,564 and high school math teachers made $53,775.

This is such scare tatic BS. Public school teachers are on salary schedules. The PE teachers have been in their jobs longer than the science teachers. As a new teacher I hate this - mainly because I have over 20 years of accounting and marketing experience, I get paid 20k less than the teacher that has been there "teaching" while I was out there doing. Yes, it's not really fair, but those are the rules you play by when you choose to teach as a second career. One day those teachers will retire and will be replace with new college graduates that will get a salary of about 40k per year WITH A MASTERS DEGREE. But will teach right out of the textbook.

23 posted on 03/05/2013 4:53:14 PM PST by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Strategerist

Most all of these PE teachers are being paid more for the EXTRA work they do...What about this do you people not understand???


24 posted on 03/05/2013 5:00:28 PM PST by JW1949
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To: Strategerist

Do you have any idea of how much EXTRA time is spent by a teacher who also coaches athletics?????


25 posted on 03/05/2013 5:01:48 PM PST by JW1949
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To: JW1949

If your gym teachers grade as many tests and as much homework as normal teachers then something is very wrong with your schools.


26 posted on 03/05/2013 5:16:48 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks MichCapCon.
In the Wayne-Westland Community Schools, high school math teachers are the lowest paid as a group and make on average almost $25,000 less a year than the physical education teachers... The salaries are set by a six-year teacher’s contract Wayne-Westland agreed to in 2008... determines pay solely by years of experience and education background... The disparity in salaries for the fields of math and science is significant because of a national debate over the demand for more quality science and math teachers in the classroom. The National Education Association, the nation's largest teachers' union, has pledged to help get more teachers into those fields, but the union backs the single-salary schedule... A 2010 law signed by then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm requires school districts to use job performance as a "significant factor" in determining teacher pay.
IOW, both the NEA/MEA and Granholm knew that the law was a humbug.


27 posted on 03/05/2013 6:07:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: LastNorwegian

Do your “normal” teachers water, mow, sow, clean, and maintain fields, locker rooms, gyms, wash uniforms, and various other duties during their summer time off?????

No, they don’t....

And ALL coaches are not PE teachers....


28 posted on 03/05/2013 6:08:49 PM PST by JW1949
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