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Immigration is a natural right
Bishop Kevin Farrell ^ | Jan 9, 2013 | Bishop Kevin Farrell

Posted on 01/10/2013 5:03:11 PM PST by moonshinner_09

This week is National Migration Week, a campaign of the American bishops aimed at comprehensive immigration reform in order to legalize 11 million undocumented immigrants. The campaign has five goals: Provide a path to citizenship for undocumented persons; preserve family unity as a cornerstone of our national immigration system; provide legal paths for low-skilled immigrant workers to come and work in the United States; restore due process protections to immigration enforcement policies; address the root causes of migration caused by persecution and economic disparity.

Since 1975 the Immigration and Legal Services (ILS) department of Catholic Charities of Dallas, Inc. has provided a broad range of immigration counseling and representation to immigrants and their families. Thousands of immigrants from Mesoamerica, Europe, Africa and Asia have been assisted by Catholic Charities ILS.

Migration is a major biblical theme. Abraham’s family moved to Canaan and then to Egypt. Jacob and his sons made their way to Egypt, and the Israelites made their exodus to the Promised Land. The people of Israel returned to Judah from exile, and, of course, there was Joseph and Mary’s journey to Bethlehem and their flight into Egypt. All were journeys of hope, either for refuge or a better life.

Which of us does not have ancestors who migrated to Texas, by ship or plane from Africa, Europe, Asia, and Central America or by foot across the Bering land bridge? But our memories are short and we need to be reminded from whence we came as God reminded the Israelites: “You shall not oppress or afflict a resident alien, for you were once aliens residing in the land of Egypt.” Exodus 22:20.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: aliens; catholicchurch; immigration; religion
Comments posted on the bishop’s website that he needs to answer:

How does your position square with the Catechism of The Catholic Church, 2nd Edition, which states: “. .. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the maaterial and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, TO OBEY ITS LAWS to assist in carrying civic burdens.” (CCC 2241). Why do Church Leaders always omit this teaching? Catholic Bishops. Cardinal Mahony’s equated SB 1070 to the “techniques of German Nazis and Russian Communists” (http://cardinalrogermahonyblogsla.blogspot.com/2010/04/arizonas-new-anti-immigrant-law.html) and Archbishop Dolan equated it with the of Klu Klux Klan and KNow Nothing Party of the 19th century (http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=36322). When actually reads SB 1070, whose “papers please” provsion is pursuant to existing federal law that has been on the books since 1940, one cannot find an even remote justification for the remarks of Cardinals Dolan and Mahony.

1 posted on 01/10/2013 5:03:20 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Comments posted on the bishop’s website that he needs to answer:
How does your position square with the Catechism of The Catholic Church, 2nd Edition, which states: “. .. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the maaterial and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, TO OBEY ITS LAWS to assist in carrying civic burdens.” (CCC 2241). Why do Church Leaders always omit this teaching? Catholic Bishops. Cardinal Mahony’s equated SB 1070 to the “techniques of German Nazis and Russian
This one comment from his blog, the others are links related to what he said.Thanks


2 posted on 01/10/2013 5:07:53 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
I would tell the Bishop that when Abraham’s family moved to Canaan they were not looking to take advantage of generous welfare benefits the same way that illegals do here in the USA. People come here now to take over (i.e. Moslems), they do not even want to learn the English language. The USA has taken in enough of the worlds deadbeats. Close the borders now.
3 posted on 01/10/2013 5:09:11 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: moonshinner_09
"Bishop Farrell was appointed Seventh Bishop of Dallas on March 6, 2007 by Pope Benedict XVI." -- About the Bishop.

Has Kevin J. Farrell gone feral? Or rogue? Can the Pope replace him with one more orthodox since this bishop has clearly gone off the rails into deep liberalism?

4 posted on 01/10/2013 5:10:21 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: moonshinner_09

No, it is not.

EMIGRATION is a natural right - when all else fails you have a God-given right to vote against a government with your feet and go somewhere else.

IMMIGRATION is subject to the laws and customs of the nation you are entering. And if you immigrate here illegally you should be subject to expulsion with extreme prejudices.

Why are so many high-ranking clergy such morons? Does theology rot the brain that badly?


5 posted on 01/10/2013 5:10:55 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Yeah sure. Just like when the Germans “migrated” into Russia in 1940.


6 posted on 01/10/2013 5:11:43 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: moonshinner_09

>> Immigration is a natural right <<

Bank robbery is a natural right. Banks have money, people need money: QED taking money from banks is perfectly OK.

“Laws” are silly constructs people with means use to repress the 99%

(If I have to tag this with /sarcasm I am SO going to hurt someone!)


7 posted on 01/10/2013 5:13:27 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: moonshinner_09

Has the definition of ‘reform’ been revised to allow wanton lawbreaking, to say nothing of illicit looting of the public treasury?

Can we ‘reform’ laws regarding guns, taxes, property improvement, vehicle emissions and so forth in the same spirit as the lefties intend?


8 posted on 01/10/2013 5:14:07 PM PST by relictele
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To: moonshinner_09

end all welfare and free goodies, including schools, to illegals


9 posted on 01/10/2013 5:41:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Bishop is just showing how Uberliberal the Catholic Church has become. Heck, the local Catholic Charity advertises it supports “Economic Justice”

I wouldn’t mind all that much if the Catholic Church footed the bill (like they have any money after settling all the homosexual / pedophile / rape lawsuits) but they don’t. They import these people, then demand I (and you, and you, and all of us) pay to support them.

Sorry, your rev, no sale. In case you missed the memo, Communism failed.


10 posted on 01/10/2013 6:01:51 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Well, I know for certain that tax exempt status is NOT a natural right. So, if the Bishop wants to keep pursuing a political campaign, he can start paying his “fair share”.


11 posted on 01/10/2013 6:08:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: moonshinner_09

How about a lawless invasion of the Vatican or Halls of Congress? Is that not a “natural right” too?

Ship the so-called America Bishops to Central America where they can help address the poverty issues in that region.


12 posted on 01/10/2013 6:16:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Little Ray

I AGREE. TED KENNEDY COMPLETELY REWROTE THE IMMIMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION ACT AND WHERE OUR FUTURE CITIZENS WERE TO COME FROM. PRIOR TO THAT-THEY ALL ASSIMILATED, SPOKE ENGLISH, AND; THERE WAS NO PRESS 2.


13 posted on 01/10/2013 6:21:28 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: moonshinner_09

I believe that save for basic screening for the diseased and criminal, all should be welcome.
I also believe that save for basic safety net (bare sustinence and shelter) for the non-able-bodied, all “entitlements” should be eliminated.
I observe that the unconstitutional proliferation of the latter makes the former untenable.
This nation was founded on anyone coming in and making their own way - and was founded to throw off “redistribution”.


14 posted on 01/10/2013 6:27:23 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: moonshinner_09
One thing that is always missing in this debate is the penalties for being in other countries illegally. Iran and N. Korea call you a spy and could execute you. Mexico has strict punishment, years in a Mex jail that might constitute a death sentence....
15 posted on 01/10/2013 8:06:39 PM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Go to hell, Kevin.

Seriously.


16 posted on 01/10/2013 8:29:21 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Bishop Kevin Farrell:
“Immigration is a natural right”

No, Bishop. It ain’t...


17 posted on 01/10/2013 8:47:06 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: ctdonath2

“I believe that save for basic screening for the diseased and criminal, all should be welcome.”

If one million try to come here, should they “all” be welcome?

If thirty million try to come here, should they “all” be welcome?

If 100 million try to come here, should they “all” be welcome?

If 500 million try to come here, should they “all” be welcome?

If one billion try to come here, should they, too, “all” be welcome?

You said “all”.
Words mean things...


18 posted on 01/10/2013 8:50:02 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: moonshinner_09

Catholic Theology is really very sound and rational-—subsidiarity and respect for the nation’s law is essential. Natural Rights includes the Right of self-defense and that can be expanded to include the State, etc.. A nation has the Right to have Laws and have them respected by ALL who choose to come. This Bishop is irrational.

He is advocating for confusion, chaos and destruction of a civil society and Rule of Law.

He should be focusing on the horrid countries these people are fleeing—and castigate them, never the most Just country in the history of the World.

He should be fighting for a Revolution in the countries that are Tyrannies....but no—they attack the “good” guys because it is safer for them.
They need to watch, “For Greater Glory”. Look at what evil Marxism/Socialism is and attack the TRUE evils in society.

These “Bishops” really need to train in the seminary for longer periods or something and they better ditch the “modernism” infiltration of Marxists and that “social justice” cr*p which is code word for Radical Egalitarianism which denies the Nature of Man and destroys the idea of Charity.


19 posted on 01/10/2013 9:16:09 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ctdonath2

I agree hordes should open, ideally, though I don’t it’s a good idea given the Welfare State and generally meddlesome government. Immigration as a natural right, though, is absurd. It would destroy sovereignty, as well as the concept of private property. The idea is that the people own the land, they cede some of their power over to the government, it assumes “eminent domain” authority, and therefore has the power of exclusion. Just like you have the right to bar someone from entering your house (unless they are a SWAT team fishing for drugs), or order someone to leave your house.

It doesn’t actually work that way, but that’s the mythology. And you can’t throw it away without chucking most, maybe all, natural rights.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 9:44:49 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Road Glide

Yes I said “all”.
Yes words have meaning.
To get the correct meaning you must read all the words in my post.
And yes I mean “all” the words.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 11:34:16 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Little Ray

They are the “high-ranking clergy” and are then part of the elite. They rub elbows with the elite and have come to believe what the “beautiful people” believe.

Doesn’t this make you think of what Jesus said about those who wanted the positions of status and the best places at the banquets? I believe many of the top clergy fall victim to the seduction of hanging out with the beautiful people.


22 posted on 01/18/2013 2:41:32 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Road Glide

If immigration is a natural right that means that the native inhabitants have no rights at all. This bozo doesn’t even understand private property. A country is the property of the people of that country. All who come in without permission are intruders. Would the Bishop like to come home one day to find squatters living in his house? He is following the Marxist view without even knowing it.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 2:47:54 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: savagesusie

The South American countries are all Catholic, maybe the Church could start there. Why so much poverty and problems in the Latin American countries?


24 posted on 01/18/2013 2:51:33 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

The Catholic Church was infiltrated by Marxists, especially in Mexico and South America. They knew to control those countries—they would have to infiltrate and take over the Catholic Church. “For the Greater Glory” is a movie about that in the early 1900’s. The State killed priests and tried to eradicate the Church in Mexico, but the people protested and revolted. After the war, the Church went downhill. “Social Justice” became a code word for communism.

Most of the “Christian” churches are the opposite of Christian. Pastor Bonhoeffer talked about the “Religionless” Christianity in Germany in the 20’s and 30’s— and came to NYC and noticed it in the non-Black Christian churches in 1931. Many of the “Liberation” Theology Churches—like Rev. Wright’s is a Marxist religion-—really godless....no Christian teaching in Cone. The warped, evil ideology.

Read the encyclical of Pope Pius X in 1907. Pascendi. It is when the infiltration started. The Fabian Socialists took over Harvard—the ivy schools and all the important newspapers, so they could “shape” opinion. They infiltrated all institutions which wielded power.

The “De” Christianization happened early in Mexico—and in South America—just like in the East. There is a “war” inside the Catholic Church right now. There are groups of Catholics like the SSPX who are fighting the rot (marxism) in the Catholic Church. Some still consider the current pope an anti-pope and a Freemason. There is so much intrigue and politics in the Catholic Church right now-—and has been ever since 1960....it is fascinating to read about it.

Pope John Paul I was killed after 33 days-—many think Pope Paul VI was an anti-pope and there is proof he was a Freemason plant. Vatican II was to destroy the Church. I love this youtube video-—It is one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSxq14tIwA4


25 posted on 01/18/2013 10:35:08 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: moonshinner_09

This entire argument is ridiculous. It’s like no one remembers 1986 when we were assured amnesty would cure the problem once and for all.

Now they say they have new answers to the problem, that according to the idiots like them in the past, doesn’t exist.

Don’t pee on me and tell me it’s raining.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 10:43:52 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Lumper20

Ted Kennedy single handidly destroyed this country with that and other stupid ideas. He invented the HMO that everyone came to hate (and blamed on Reagan).

He invented “No Child Left Behind” that GW Bush got enacted and the libs hate it.

So how is he still the liberals darling? Oh, I forgot. They are retarded.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 10:47:14 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Road Glide

Why wait for them to come here? If “economic justice” is so important then why aren’t we bringing over 500 million Chinese ourselves?

I mean, they just want a better life for their children.

Then another 500 million Indians (dot), then more Pakistanis etc.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 10:49:48 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: cradle of freedom

They are all socialist countries. While the Pope’s preach about the evil of socialism, their are “socialist priests and bishops”-—which is an oxymoron.

This is a really great commentary on Socialism by various popes.

http://www.tfpstudentaction.org/politically-incorrect/socialism/what-the-popes-really-say-about-socialism.html?utm_source=sm&utm_medium=email&utm_content=SAE0161&utm_campaign=MainNewsletter


29 posted on 01/18/2013 11:08:39 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Fledermaus

Agree.


30 posted on 01/19/2013 9:02:23 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: savagesusie
I agree with much that you say but I also think that many clergy who are not actual Marxists are being led down the garden path by the liberals and Marxists. The Marxist influence the liberals and then they spread the propaganda throughout the church. They will take a couple of passages from the Bible like the ones about being hospitable to foreigners and they will take it to the extreme that it is somehow anti-Christian for people to have their own nations.

The Marxist read the Bible and study it so as to defeat it. For instance, they take the passages from the Bible about the Kingdom of God on earth where every nation, language and race is living before God in perfect harmony. This perfect world cannot happen as long as there is sin on earth but the Marxists goad the Christians into a me too utopianism where the Christian clergy are getting caught up in the leftist euphoria of living in a kumbaya world where everyone is at peace and there is harmony everywhere. What would really happen in a world without borders would be the worst wars and land grabs that the world has ever seen. Imagine if there were no national borders. The more powerful nations would attack their neighbors driving people from their homes, making them refugees, starving and desperate. This would be happening all over the world. The blind leaders of the blind in the Christian clergy cannot see the obvious realities before their eyes.

31 posted on 01/20/2013 12:51:27 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: moonshinner_09

I think charity begins at home and the Vatican should set an example and invite all those oppressesed palistinion Muslims to move right in to Vatican City .


32 posted on 01/20/2013 1:00:30 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Fledermaus

Ah, the 1965 Immigration REFORM Act—the gift that keeps on giving—to the Democrats, that is. Here is an article about food stamp fraud among immigrant store owners.

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2012/12/29/food-stamp-fraud-getting-the-attention-of-mainstream-media/

Refugee Resettlement Watch is an excellant website, don’t forget to book mark it.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 9:13:29 AM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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