Posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PST by SENTINEL
The Second Amendment defines for the United States of America the exact nature of the relationship between the citizens and those they have have chosen to govern them.
I reread and stand by what I said.
What are you an oathbreaking fed trying to further demoralize the troops ? Chris Matthews in disguise ?...
Perhaps if you ponder THAT you'll realize the damage your doing and shut your suck.
Alternatively, "they" are amongst "us" ...
Either way, sorting friend from foe from indifferent is going to be interesting.
What it’s not hard to sort is who is HELPING with the current psychological warfare attack we are under, and who is trying to COUNTER it.
Don’t bother butting heads with this statist moron.
BTW, for anyone interested:
I am also capable of reasoning ... and understand the logical fallacy known as the "excluded middle". Do you even know what that means?
I reread and stand by what I said.
I'm not surprised.
shut your suck.
Wow ... that's really impressive. I'm not kissing your ass, so I must be worthless and should siddown and shaddup.
Your reaction to my comments really betrays the weakness of your original post.
Once again, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY.
It's going to be no matter what happens. There is no way out of this but the hard way.
It's a hell of a lot easier to fight against "just following orders" than it is to fight against "Live free or Die".
Good, target rich environment.
I reread and stand by what I said.
I'm not surprised.
shut your suck.
Yes I do. You are assuming that because I went straight from your questioning of my numbers to accusing you of "crouching" I do not understand logic.
What you fail to understand is that not only do I understand logic, I understand men's hearts. When afraid, when uncertain, when under psychological attack like now, they look for leaders. They look for courage. They look for facts. I wrote this with all of this in mind, trying to set a strategic tone in an effort to secure peace. I put my real name on it. You, with your petty tactical thinking are aiding the propaganda machine you warned me about !
I hope you wipe the wine and cheese off your rules of logic book before heading out to battle with it....
I did not trust them.
I do not trust you.
Your inability or unwillingness to rationally discuss dissenting viewpoints and your brittleness in the face of criticism are very disturbing.
Your position is very weak. Your estimates of forces on both sides are completely arbitrary and unsupported; it reminds me of Japanese planning for Midway. Your section "what about the military" appears to be based on 'feelings', and completely ignores currency of skills, availability of gear, or segregation of likely dissenters from sure loyalists.
You show absolutely no confidence in the worth of your analysis. If you had such confidence, you would be arguing your point, defending your analysis, further explaining your reasoning.
Instead, you are attacking me personally.
I'd suggest very strongly that if you want to contribute something worthwhile to the cause of freedom, you should check your attitude, learn how to discuss matters rationally, and quit alienating allies.
Your move, son.
Day-ummmm!!
nice one!
People like that make me nuts too- but man, you said it! I WILKL be using that in the future
You are assuming
No, I am not.
What you fail to understand
I understand far more than you realize
not only do I understand logic, I understand men's hearts.
That's a huge steaming pile of self-serving drivel.
PM on it’s way.
Great work! Post of the year!
Nothing was arbitrary or based on feelings, it was all referenced to historical events as well as numbers.
Perhaps what I need to be asking you is how many times throught history, the "rules of logic" have won battles for freedom ? Stopped Democide ? How many lawyers overtook machine gun nests at Normandy Beach with superior debating skills ?
Let us also not forget, that our God is still God. The God who had his pick of all the Lawyers in the land, yet chose little David to slay Goliath.
Those who do not read are no better off than those who cannot read. (as long as you can run, shoot too...for any arrogant lawyers who may be lurking)
I will address your points openly, however.
1) I don't really care who or what you think you're 'encouraging' by making wild-eyed unsupported estimates of "us" and "them". Lots of folks did that before CW-I ... you're making the same mistake they did. I recommend against it.
2) I didn't "ask" you about equipment, I stated flat out that you were ignoring the topic.
3a) I don't claim to be a smart guy. I may or may not be one, but I make no claims.
3b) I am not a lawyer.
3c) I'm not sure what sort of 'drift' you think you get. Really. Don't over-think this, I'm NOT playing games.
3d) I am not a fed.
3e) I am not trying to trick you or anyone else. Again, I'm not playing games. I just don't do that.
3f) I do not wish to see you or any other patriot get arrested.
I do wish to see patriots use their brains. That includes being willing to discuss matters rationally, and to address criticism without personal attacks.
You claim to be a Marine. Fine; I'll assume that's true for the moment. You are forgetting that your audience (which includes me) is not composed of PFCs under your command.
"Shut your suck" may work in the squad bay; it most assuredly DOES NOT work out here in the real world.
All further correspondence will be carried out on thread; any further PM from you on this topic WILL be copied, in its entirety, on thread.
Right ... and just as destructive. Maybe more destructive; there's more to destroy.
Don't over-estimate your enemy either.
Good advice. Also, don't under-estimate yourself.
I'm not claiming that there are more armed tyrants than there are armed patriots, BTW. My first claim is that the ratio does not favor the patriots as much as the article asserts. My second claim is that the tyrants enjoy an advantage of organization, logistics, and propaganda apparatus that the author seems to ignore. My third claim is that deluding ourselves does nobody any good.
The Confederate States of America were absolutely certain of that.
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