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STICK TO YOUR GUNS
28 Dec 12 | Justin Giles

Posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PST by SENTINEL

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230:1

1 posted on 12/28/2012 11:53:35 AM PST by SENTINEL
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To: SENTINEL

This post was up a little while ago then it disappeared. Now it’s back up. Something funny going on here.

Good Read, BTW.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 11:59:07 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: SENTINEL

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3 posted on 12/28/2012 12:01:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SENTINEL

The facts and the numbers are on our side but is it enough to stop the other side from doing something stuip.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 12:02:20 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Stormdog
Was my doing, the final chart didn't come up due to some dumb grunt handling the HTML. ;)

Admin was kind enough to let me repost it.

5 posted on 12/28/2012 12:02:20 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Stormdog

I think they did it just to add the last graphic. Good stuff though...


6 posted on 12/28/2012 12:03:17 PM PST by BreezyDog (Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: SENTINEL

Thanks for letting us know, (not that I’m starting to get a bit paranoid or anything like that)


7 posted on 12/28/2012 12:06:41 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: riverrunner
"The facts and the numbers are on our side but is it enough to stop the other side from doing something stuip."

Disarmament will result in Democide. No other argument matters.

8 posted on 12/28/2012 12:09:23 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SENTINEL
Yes - Sun Tzu was correct. We must understand our enemies; they are monsters - killers without conscience.

I do not care that they 'understand' us, any more than I care that cancer or a psychopathic serial killer might 'understand' us. I understand that there is only one way to stop them. Only one way.

9 posted on 12/28/2012 12:10:50 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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10 posted on 12/28/2012 12:14:48 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: SENTINEL; Travis McGee

This is an outstanding read. Travis, take note.


11 posted on 12/28/2012 12:16:43 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz; All

Freepmail me for an HTML ready version of this article for easy posting at other sites.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 12:30:27 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SENTINEL
That 230:1 ratio does NOT take into account the shear numbers of force multipliers available to Them. All manor of electronic surveillance. Night vision hardware. Infrared visual surveillance equipment. Body armor and armored vehicles. Grenades of every imaginable variety and yield. Not to mention the best and highest caliber weapons on the planet.

That shrinks the advantage down to quite a small number.

Still, I am not deterred. I'll stand with what is Right.

13 posted on 12/28/2012 12:38:55 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Anyone who obeys an unlawful order to confiscate or regulate his or her firearms might as well be given a free ticket to the next concentration camp.

Come and get them.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 12:44:56 PM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: riverrunner

Wars are always started by someone doing something stupid. I wouldn’t count on anyone in the government doing something smart or right to avoid this.


15 posted on 12/28/2012 12:46:32 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Force multiplier is loyalty. I have no doubt our military will not be effective in any internal conflict. Only the bootlicking fags will follow an order to fire on Americans. Every military person I know, I know many, have made it clear they will not follow those orders. As far as deserting or just nullifying orders by doing nothing they are split. Same goes for LEOs. Most will go home to protect the family if SHTF. That leaves the ones out committing suicide as the ones that need to be identified.

Basically there are 80 million armed people in US. Even if only 20% refuse to be disarmed that is still 16 million (I see that number closer to 30+ million). There is no way a door to door confiscation can logistically be effected in 50 states. Look for more of a tax and attrition game plan.


16 posted on 12/28/2012 12:52:00 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Also they have initiative and a concentration of force as decisive points.
How do we find our friends and provide support? If we can organize and react in time, the whole thing will fall apart when they start getting shot at from behind. Or officers start getting cell phone calls from a familiar numbers...


17 posted on 12/28/2012 12:56:31 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: SENTINEL

“Imagine you are walking through the woods on a dark cloudy night.” Adequately equipped, mentally prepared and at the ready with a prior well considered planned response for the likelihood of any event which might threaten my health and welfare prior to leaving the house. Otherwise, why venture forth. Next scenario please.

Outstanding post! There are those who who need the reminder. Then there are those who are mentally ready every waking hour for whom the ‘war games’ never stop.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 12:58:10 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: BubbaBasher
Vegas odd's are with you...too bad it isnt just our cash on the table.

"I wouldn’t count on anyone in the government doing something smart or right"

What amazes me is that Ø was re-elected. And having seen the congressional (dis)approval ratings, that they kept the senate. Guess the (slim) majority got the goverment it deserves.
Too bad the rest of us are along for the ride.
19 posted on 12/28/2012 1:12:16 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: SENTINEL
230:1

Co-incidentally, a common bullet weight for .45 ACP cartridges is 230 grains.

20 posted on 12/28/2012 1:58:25 PM PST by Disambiguator (Liberalism is the abomination that causes desolation.)
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To: Disambiguator
45ACP:1 ?

Kind of has a nice ring to it.

Almost as good as 223:1.

21 posted on 12/28/2012 2:05:00 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Need leaders. A lot of people will follow right now.


22 posted on 12/28/2012 2:29:51 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: SENTINEL

Good article.

I read a quote somewhere that was to the effect of this.....

If you want to know what your enemy fears most, look at the means he tries to use to scare you.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 3:00:59 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SENTINEL
Excellent post. Thanks for sharing it with us, SENTINEL.

I re-posted to my Facebook account. Who knows, maybe it'll go viral :-)

24 posted on 12/28/2012 3:57:23 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: dirtymac

Needed;

LEADERS

Run and Ad in the paper ?

Perhaps a TV spot?

We have voices out there , murmurings,,,

Randy Weaver,David Koresh is a short list.


25 posted on 12/28/2012 3:57:32 PM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Travis McGee; All
That 230:1 ratio does NOT take into account the shear numbers of force multipliers available to Them.

FreeFor has force multipliers, too. We have automated drones with cameras. That's right. You too can have one from Amazon.com for about $300.

We have night vision, too, of varying grades. A simple low-light camera is available for less than $200. Very similar night vision monocles to those the US Military has can be had by private individuals for less than $2000. I have a buddy at work who has one, mostly for feral hog hunting. It is seriously awesome to drive with one with headlights off on a moonless night, not that I would know anything about that :-)

We also have communications force multipliers available to us. Munitions-level encryption is available in a battery-powered internet router, available at your local computer store for less than $100. Buy a few of these, configure them with rotating-key WPA security, and use iPhones or other WiFi-type devices to communicate in your AO through them. If the crypt keys come from a one-time pad, they are unbreakable without capturing the book or whatever we used for a one-time pad. A set of copies of a particular version of a pocket Bible would make an excellent one-time pad: not only are Bibles not common among OpFor, they have thin pages, making for lots of one-time-use encryption keys in a short space.

We have force multipliers. We just have to start inventorying them, and practicing.

26 posted on 12/28/2012 4:09:40 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: SENTINEL

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27 posted on 12/28/2012 4:24:27 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Stormdog

Even a paranoid can have real enemies!


28 posted on 12/28/2012 4:30:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chulaivn66
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

29 posted on 12/28/2012 4:37:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 45semi
Too bad the rest of us are along to pay for the ride.
30 posted on 12/28/2012 4:38:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: backwoods-engineer

It just went to my e-mail list!


31 posted on 12/28/2012 4:39:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SENTINEL

Wow!! Excellent article.


32 posted on 12/28/2012 4:48:18 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: SENTINEL

ping


33 posted on 12/28/2012 4:57:03 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: SENTINEL

In theory, and 200 years ago, you are of course quite right, but Marxists don’t hesitate to oppose, and will use drones to do it. The things are on college campuses. You hardly need human enforcers to act against gun owners today. Drones ware becoming available and retrievable, in the event there is reluctance by some drone shooter.

Why are drones never addressed in these inspiring threads? Obumma would sell his 53% on the idea to off all of us. Heck, these voters of his ate suggesting it here and there now.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 5:10:20 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Little Ray
How do we find our friends and provide support?

Ham Radio.

Keep your amps and kit in working order.

35 posted on 12/28/2012 5:40:18 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
We just have to start inventorying them, and practicing.

Agreed. Logistics will be the key. As of now and for short term, They have the upper hand.

36 posted on 12/28/2012 5:44:57 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberals are a wrecking crew dismantling civilization by replacing what works with what feels good.)
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To: SENTINEL; b9; Windflier; Colonel_Flagg; All
Now back to that walk in the woods and the snarling beast in the dark. Hopefully the truth has thrown enough illumination your way to see that you’ve been treed by a Chihuahua. Imagine a 230 pound man versus a 1 pound purse dog.
Picture a large football stadium, completely sold out. The crowd versus those on the field and sidelines is about a 230:1 ratio.
Imagine a head on collision between a sport bike and a fully loaded 18 wheeler. That is a 230:1 weight ratio.
Take an ice cube from your freezer and hit it with an Oxy-Acetylene torch. That is a 230:1 temperature ratio.
Take heart, free Americans, our Founding Fathers have got your back.

Amen. The only thing they have more of than us is talking heads in pop culture and the MSM. The ratio is reversed, there! Great post, SENTINEL.

Very inspiring. Thank you.

37 posted on 12/28/2012 6:14:54 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SENTINEL
Disarmament will result in Democide. No other argument matters.

Worth reminding folks: Disarmament results in Democide.

38 posted on 12/28/2012 7:03:36 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: SENTINEL

Excellent.


39 posted on 12/28/2012 7:38:56 PM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: SENTINEL

My dead cold fingers.


40 posted on 12/28/2012 7:41:31 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: SENTINEL

But combat boots are NOT allergic to Chihuahuas.


41 posted on 12/28/2012 8:11:33 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SENTINEL
Amen! Remember when socialists begin to talk about disarming your for the sake of “public safety,” that disarmament is a required precursor to genocide, in every case.
42 posted on 12/29/2012 5:51:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SENTINEL

Bump!


43 posted on 12/29/2012 5:54:36 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney's gift to the country....Boehner bowing to Obama while kicking the Tea Party.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Powder..patch..ball FIRE!


44 posted on 12/29/2012 6:37:49 AM PST by BallandPowder
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To: RitaOK
"Why are drones never addressed in these inspiring threads? Obumma would sell his 53% on the idea to off all of us. Heck, these voters of his ate suggesting it here and there now."

Did I not say that our God is the God of David, Elijah and Samson ? Each of these men had his victory against overwhelming odds after showing faith in God.

There is no better force multiplier than God.

45 posted on 12/29/2012 10:06:12 AM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: Big Red Badger

You have leaders. You just haven’t recognized them yet.


46 posted on 12/29/2012 11:03:51 AM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: bmwcyle

Their dead cold fingers.


47 posted on 12/29/2012 7:34:28 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: SENTINEL

Thank you for your reply. I too believe it, just as you say. Wars and rumors of war. But, I have been surprised at all the stars and stripes threads on our gun rights in an age where pistols and guns are quite obsolete, if and when the powers decide to end any arguement. You know what I mean?


48 posted on 12/29/2012 7:37:21 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Redcitizen

I hope it will be that way but we will see how many people will sit on their butts.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 7:49:22 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: RitaOK
Rita, pistols and rifles will NEVER be obsolete. If that was the case they would not be trying to ban them.

A drone does not exist in and of itself, it is the culmination of a very long chain of events, each susceptible to pistols and rifles. Even during use it can be brought down with even a single shot from a 22.

There are good people, even amongst "them" who will not violate their oaths, or will repent midstream like Saul on the road to Damascus.

Warn, yes. Prepare, yes. Fear, no.

50 posted on 12/29/2012 8:28:38 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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