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Did Radio DJs Kill Kate Middleton’s Nurse?
The Christian Diarist ^ | December 8, 2012 | JP

Posted on 12/07/2012 1:17:56 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Once upon a time I was an aspiring media professional. My very first foray into the business was as summer newspaper intern with The Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Near the end of my internship, I was given an assignment that haunts me to this very day.

I was told to go out to a Cleveland suburb where a shooter was reportedly spraying bullets in a residential neighborhood.

When I arrived at scene, police had cordoned off the block where the shooter – a troubled 17 year-old kid – was holed up in his house. After what seemed like hours, but probably were more like minutes, a SWAT team stormed the house.

I expected an exchange of gunfire, but there was none. Then paramedics were summoned to the house, where they removed the lifeless body of the kid, who, it turned out, had turned the gun on himself.

It shook me to my very core. Not the least because the deceased was only two years younger than I was.

But as I learned in J-school, I had to get to story; I had to interview witnesses.

So I approached the young man’s family, which had huddled behind the police cordon, along with neighbors that had been evacuated.

They were near hysterical. But, still, I asked them if they had anything to say to the newspaper.

They looked right through me. And I didn’t blame them. Because I intruded upon them at a time when they should have been left alone with their grief.

I was reminded of that experience when heard the tragic story of Jacintha Saldanha, the nurse who worked at King Edward VII Hospital in London, where expected mum Kate Middleton was treated this week.

Jacintha was so traumatized by a hoax played on her by two oh-so-clever Australian radio jocks – who pretended to be Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles calling for Kate – that she killed herself yesterday.

My heart breaks for the deceased nurse and her family.

The tragedy confirms to me what I have learned during a media career of more than two decades: Many of those who work in print, digital, radio and television are closer to the prince of this world than to Christ.

Their God-lessness informs their approach to mass communication. If they can put something in print, or over the airwaves, that creates buzz, that attracts readers or listeners or viewers, they’re good to go with it.

Even if it causes a poor nurse so much despair, she finds her life no longer worth living.


TOPICS: Humor; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: hoax; katemiddleton; media; nurse
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Like our First Amendment, both Great Britain adn Australia have laws that protect the right of media to print or air pretty much whatever they see fit. But just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you always should. To borrow from Shakespeare, discretion is the better part of valor.
1 posted on 12/07/2012 1:18:02 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Why does modern western civ think its “cool” to be mean to perfectly innocent individuals in the name of humor? Its sick.


2 posted on 12/07/2012 1:22:16 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

This is ridiculous. The nurse obviously had other mental issues. No sane person would commit suicide over a prank. It wasn’t even that embarrassing a prank. Have we become so weak that a little bit of embarrassment makes us go off the deep end.


3 posted on 12/07/2012 1:27:08 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
I was an aspiring media professional.

And now you are a blogger.

A tragic tale of dashed dreams and failure.

My condolences, sir.

4 posted on 12/07/2012 1:28:42 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

No. Just like the bully suicides, the person that did the killing is the suicide NOT the people around them. They might have done something annoying and stupid and embarrassing for her, but plenty of people get annoyed and embarrassed without killing themselves. It’s like blaming the gun for the crime.


5 posted on 12/07/2012 1:37:43 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: beandog

“The nurse obviously had other mental issues.”

Yet she was still working. Still a mother to her children. They pushed her over the edge with their stupid prank. What if a “prank” causes someone to have a heart attack. They are off the air now.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 1:37:44 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: beandog
A significant percentage of suicides are “impulse suicides”. I don't think the DJs murdered this woman or could have foreseen that anyone would kill himself over their prank, so I'm not focusing on the DJs. I'm asserting just that this appears to have been an impulsive suicide by a woman who may well have been sane (albeit very sensitive). A fair number of middle class men in their twenties with no history of mental imbalance kill themselves after a bad fight with a girlfriend or after being fired. The suicide in the movie Dead Poets Society, however, made no sense because a character who clearly WAS sane shot himself because his father wouldn't let him be in a play. The character was NOT distraught and took time to decide to kill himself, meaning he was not impulsive. However, there are many suicides by upset, sane people, and this nurse may have been one of them.
7 posted on 12/07/2012 1:42:39 PM PST by utahagen
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Very bad, misleading headline.

NO they didn’t kill her.

She took her own life.

Your Headline is tantamount to saying the gun killed the victim.

Granted, they may have (in her mind) ‘shamed’ her and I would imagine her peers were pretty harsh on her, but, if the original reports are correct, she did herself in.

Other than the loss of life etc the other ‘tragedy’ here is that we will now be cascaded with 9 months (give or take) nonstop reports and updates on every hangnail and headache Mz Middleton experiences.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 1:44:18 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: beandog

Wrong. She was a private person made to look silly to the entire world within a few hours. This isn’t like an office prank or a prank among buddies ... this could be an enromous burden to a shy, sensitive person.


9 posted on 12/07/2012 1:48:20 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

They should fire those DJ’s. I read that they were a little embarrassed by their prank at first until it went viral and then were just oh so enthralled with their wit.


10 posted on 12/07/2012 2:14:17 PM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: dinoparty
She probably was also concerned she'd lose her job for revealing private information about a patient.

It sure would happen here in the States with our HIPPA laws.

11 posted on 12/07/2012 2:16:26 PM PST by 3catsanadog (No more blaming Bush, Obama-now you inherited the mess you made.)
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To: dinoparty

I heartily agree, dinoparty. Media should not ambush innocent people. In 1995, Jenny Jones invited a guy by the name of Jonathan Schmitz on her talk show to meet his “secret admirer, leading Schmitz to believe it was a woman.” It turned out his admirer was a gay guy named Scott Amedure. Schmitz was so distraught at being humiliated on national TV, he bought a shotgun, went to Amedure’s home and killed him. Jenny Jones claimed no responsibility.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 2:16:38 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

This “Howard Stern” culture in the West is disgusting. Sick, stupid pranks & jokes passed off as “fun”.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 2:22:12 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: beandog

Her job was over. Her life was over. She was about to be nothing more than a punchline to a joke all over the UK. You can bet there would have been more to it than that, if she were an immigrant she might be one of the few harrassed and expelled for embarrassing the royal family.


14 posted on 12/07/2012 2:25:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dinoparty

I think you are right. Not only was she made to look silly but I can imagine she got a chewing out from her employer, which would have added to her burden. I’m sure in her world people are not as cruel as those idiots who fooled her.


15 posted on 12/07/2012 2:27:51 PM PST by texaschick
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Those DJ’s are loving this attention I bet.

Horrible people.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 2:29:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

People should consider that before they engage in 'harmless pranks'.

17 posted on 12/07/2012 2:29:23 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

That certainly turned ugly.

Such a pity.


18 posted on 12/07/2012 2:45:50 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: texaschick

“Jacintha was a first-class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients during her time with us” over the last four years, he said.

“Everyone is shocked by the loss of a much-loved and valued colleague.”

He said the hospital, a favourite of the royals for years, had been trying to help Saldanha “through this very difficult time” after the call had sparked intense media coverage.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/15584247/nurse-in-kate-royal-hoax-call-found-dead/

No mention of her employer “chewing her out” at all. Where did you get that information?


19 posted on 12/07/2012 2:54:10 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

No, she killed herself.

This is the same as the agy guy whose roomate filmed him making out with a guy, put it on the internet, then the gay guy jumped to his death.

-The gay guy jumped to his death-


20 posted on 12/07/2012 2:54:38 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Bull. First, she fails to do her job properly of ensuring client privacy, then she kills herself to save the embarrassment. By blaming others for her personal failure, you are justifying her suicide.


21 posted on 12/07/2012 2:55:09 PM PST by sagar
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To: beandog
I think there is another way to look at this.

We are seeing it as citizens in a constitutional republic. She a subject in a monarchy. She probably felt great shame to be a party to the pranking of a royal highness. Here, we were raised with all men are created equal; there, she was likely raised to adore the royalty.

As a different example, look at how the people of Thailand are devoted to their beloved king. If this prank had happened there, I could see the same thing happening.

-PJ

22 posted on 12/07/2012 3:04:10 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I outgrew the “morons in the morning” theme decades ago.


23 posted on 12/07/2012 3:19:45 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: sagar
First, she fails to do her job properly of ensuring client privacy, then she kills herself to save the embarrassment.

Nobody alive on this planet can tell with certainty what were the true reasons for the suicide.

By blaming others for her personal failure [...]

If a prankster tricks you to enter a cage with hungry lions, will you be content to blame yourself for being unable to fend them off? Maybe it's your fault that you don't carry bear spray on a daily basis?

If another prankster calls you pretending to be a doctor and says that your only child had a car accident and died a moment ago, will you blame yourself for the heart attack that follows?

If yet another prankster SWATs your house and the police shoots you, will you blame yourself for ... for what?

There are certain things that sane, moral people just don't do. This was a mean prank.

24 posted on 12/07/2012 3:30:42 PM PST by Greysard (Marxist Law of Distribution of Wealth: Shortages will be divided equally among the peasants.)
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To: utahagen

“The suicide in the movie Dead Poets Society, however, made no sense because a character who clearly WAS sane shot himself because his father wouldn’t let him be in a play. The character was NOT distraught and took time to decide to kill himself, meaning he was not impulsive.”

It was more than that...he had been under the thumb of his father his whole life, and he had finally found what *he* wanted to do (go into theater). His father told him that, no, he was going to fulfill his father’s wishes and become a doctor...basically shoved his own will down his son’s throat. So I’d say there was a whole miasma of issues going on in the kid’s head...”distraught” isn’t always obvious.


25 posted on 12/07/2012 3:31:59 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“Did Radio DJs Kill Kate Middleton’s Nurse? “

No. It was either global warming or Bush. She isn’t responsible for her own actions. Everyone else is.


26 posted on 12/07/2012 3:38:45 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Please. The average Brit doesn’t bow and scrape to royalty. A couple of years ago, some shock jock radio station asked a caller (a soldier) whether he would shag the queen, he replied ‘yes, but only if she wore the crown’.

Even in George III’s time cartoonists like James Gilray and the Cruikshanks were crudely portraying the Royals as fat, oafish buffoons and using scatalogical humour to back their point up.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRgeorgeIV2.jpg


27 posted on 12/07/2012 3:49:57 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I just can’t see being so despondent over a prank call that you commit suicide.

If her mental state was so fragile, something else would have been her breaking point, even if the prank hadn’t happened.

Such a tragedy.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 4:04:03 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: dinoparty

Agreed. Some people can’t handle being dragged through the muck and targeted by the msm. After watching Princess Di spin out of control, I’m not so sure the palace gray suits didn’t pay her a visit.

I know someone who was innocent but after a year of nothing progressing on the criminal case and the msm spreading lies, he ended his life. The rabid msm still couldn’t let it go and posted his obit with his arrest picture. They are disgusting scum. They wouldn’t issue an apology even after many, many people demanded they do so.


29 posted on 12/07/2012 4:18:36 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

No these DJs did not kill her or contribute to her death.

It was a harmless prank and no one was harmed and no critical information about the royals was released to the public.

The question is whether someone in the hospital or British security or wherever jumped down this woman’s throat for this minor incident and made a mountain out of a molehill. They know who they are and they are more to blame than anybody.


30 posted on 12/07/2012 4:20:58 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Whatever. This will have a chilling affect on pranks like this.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 4:27:26 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: dinoparty
Wrong. She was a private person made to look silly to the entire world within a few hours.

How damn silly did she look? She passed a phone call on from someone claiming to be the queen, how dare her! It wasn't that big of a deal.

I think this poor girl had other issues. It could be the way they look up to royalty on that side of the pond, but even with that, it not as if she passed on a call from the KING! Now how embarrassing would that be?

32 posted on 12/07/2012 4:56:45 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: sagar
First, she fails to do her job properly of ensuring client privacy,

She is supposed to recognize the queens voice over the phone?

It wasn't like the real queen was calling and she wouldn't let the call through, or worse got rude with the real queen.

Big deal, so some woman that married a prince gets an unwanted phone call. This is considered embarrassing the royal family? Hey Kennedy uhh,royal family, use your cell phones!

I feel for this poor nurse and her family, but she had to have some other issues.

33 posted on 12/07/2012 5:17:38 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Greysard
If a prankster tricks you to enter a cage with hungry lions, will you be content to blame yourself for being unable to fend them off? Maybe it's your fault that you don't carry bear spray on a daily basis?

No, but I would blame myself if I carried BEAR spray into a cage full of LIONS. :^)

34 posted on 12/07/2012 5:22:21 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: beandog

respectfully you are 100% wrong.

look up the principle of “eggshell skull” in the law.

it DOES NOT MATTER that she had mental issues. that is the law.

THEY CAUSED THE TRIGGER. They are liable.

There is 100% foreseeability in a negative consequence. Somebody would be fired, somebody will have a black mark on their career. The fact she was ill is of no matter.

(think having someone fake arrested and the victim having a heart attack.)

You take your victim, and the ensuring consequences, as you find them.

They killed her. period.

This is like yelling fire in a croweded theater as a joke.


35 posted on 12/08/2012 2:00:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GeronL

I hope they and their radio station are criminally and civily sued.


36 posted on 12/08/2012 2:03:05 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I agree but I doubt anything happens but a ratings boost


37 posted on 12/08/2012 2:04:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: APatientMan

This is exactly like those cases where a kid is bullied and commits suicide.

They riuned her job, made her the laughingstock of the UK, she probably could not live with being hated by everyone.


38 posted on 12/08/2012 2:07:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

the DJ’s are liable. Her issues are irrelevant.

civily:

duty - breach - causation - damage

The dj’s failed all prongs under the case law.

criminally:

guilty mind and guilty act

that is crystal clear here under the case law.


39 posted on 12/08/2012 2:14:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Southern Cross Austereo, the company that owns 2Day FM station says that DJ Mel Greig and Michael Christian are ‘deeply saddened’ by the news of Jacintha Saldanha’s death and are taking themselves off the air ‘until further notice.’ Read on for their full statement!
DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian of Sydney’s 2Day FM station, who claimed to be Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles during a prank call to Kate Middleton’s hospital room on December 4, have released a statement after Jacintha Saldanha, the mother of two who transferred the call, was found dead on Dec. 6.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/12/07/kate-middleton-prank-callers-statement-nurse-suicide/


40 posted on 12/08/2012 2:17:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: beandog

Thank you, beandog. For a woman to kill herself over a silly phoney phone call is beyond the pale. She must have had serious issues prior - or her family beat her up so badly over her mistake that she decided to punish them.

The disc jockeys pulled a silly prank. I laughed at their bad imitations of the Queen and Prince Charles. Charles was making jokes about it before this suicide.

Did the hospital make her life a misery afterwards? Foolish, foolish girl!


41 posted on 12/08/2012 2:20:50 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: chris37

the person who video taped in that case was found guilty.

the cyber bullies who targetted a classmate to suicide were convicted.


42 posted on 12/08/2012 2:21:51 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GeronL

Don’t be so stupid. She was a grown woman - not a little girl. Who says she was “hated by everyone”? Prince Charles made jokes about it.

I heard the original phone call. That she fell for the ridiculously bad imitations of the Queen and Prince Charles does not speak well for her. I pity her suicide but it was completely unnecessary.


43 posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:54 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: longtermmemmory

I know that they were, but they are not responsible for anyone’s suicide.

Only the person who commits suicide is respnisbile for suicide.


44 posted on 12/08/2012 2:27:27 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Her age is immaterial. Yes, she was the national butt of jokes. She was going to lose her job for giving out information. She was a national joke and about to be unemployed too because of that call.

It was totally malicious.


45 posted on 12/08/2012 2:31:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Where the hell do you get off saying “her life was over”? Maybe you think Brits still live under the thumb of royalty and worry about getting beheaded or drawn and quartered but I assure you that most Brits do not.

I’m angry at this girl’s suicide. Where were her family and friends? Where were her co-workers? She obviously had issues and now two prankster dj’s will have to live with this. Bah! Humbug!


46 posted on 12/08/2012 2:33:06 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: chris37

the says otherwise.

(see also “fighting words”)


47 posted on 12/08/2012 2:34:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

oops “the law says otherwise”


48 posted on 12/08/2012 2:35:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GeronL

I suppose you are appalled by all the pranks Steve Allen pulled on “The Tonight Show”? Did “Candid Camera” offend your politically-correct sensibilities?

She was a foolish young girl who could have quickly lived down this embarrassment. Poor, silly girl.


49 posted on 12/08/2012 2:36:49 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: longtermmemmory

As far as I know, the person convicted in the case of the gay guy jumping to his own death wa snot convicted of murder or suicide, nor should he have been as he did neither.

Certainly he should not have filmed his roomate and then posted those films, but his roomate’s decision to take his own life was exactly that, his decision.


50 posted on 12/08/2012 2:52:31 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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