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ATTENTION Whoever Re-Programmed Hannity to Tout Amnesty as a Solution to the GOP's Current Woes...
Reaganite Republican ^ | 14 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/14/2012 6:48:37 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

'Amnesty = Hispanic votes' is nothing more than a desert mirage, one based 
on easily-disproven false premises...

Listen up, Gee-oh-Pee establishment losers:

As the despicable, disingenuous American left LOVE to remind us over-and-over-and-over, Ronald Reagan -in a good faith effort to settle the issue once and for all- allowed a 'one time only' legalization of 2.7M mostly-Mexican immigrants by signing 1986's Simpson-Mazzoli Act, and attempt at immigration reform which granted not just amnesty but full citizenship.

While that's true enough, The Gipper actually came to regard his signing of the legislation as one of the 'greatest regrets' of his two-term presidency, since the man Reagan once likened to 'Pac-Man, a round thing that gobbles money'
-House Speaker 
Tip O'Neill- reneged on most his promises, the Dems even gutting at the last congressional minute the bill's enforcement mechanism on the employer level. Thus, the legalization/citizenship part came to be, but hiring 'fresh' illegals continued to be an easy crime that cost companies who continued to do it nothing.

The issue was of course not-at-all resolved, so here we are today: the continued pull of potential employment has brought us as many as 30M illegals squatting in the USA while the Dems look for new excuses to 'solve' a problem largely of their own creation by registering them for welfare, food stamps, and -naturally- the Democratic Party.

Yep, incremental millions of poor immigrants are indeed natural Democrats on economic issues at least, while libs will surely find a way to finagle full citizenship for all once we allow most amnesty. But idea that the GOP's joining in pardoning the law-breakers -thus encouraging a further deluge- is going to gain Republican net votes is sheer and utter nonsense, as history insists this is simply not the case:

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DougRoss@Journal (highlights Ed.):


With data from Pew Research (h/t Free Republic), let's examine the historic trend line of Hispanic support for Democrats and Republicans.

Please note: whether Republicans support amnesty or not, the share of the Latino vote captured by Republican candidates stays in the same narrow band...

Because, as has been explained over and over and over again, Hispanic support for Democrats has nothing to do with 'amnesty'.

Hey, Boehner: you listening?


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Yes, people usually vote in their own self-interest. And I'm with Doug Ross on this- if Boehner and friends persist with this sort of 'suicidal idiocy' on immigration, we'll rattle him out of that Speaker's chair faster than you can say adios amigo.

Like Mark Levin said last week, the ONLY reason the Democrats promote amnesty/citizenship is to gain a few million (reliable) voters- 'this has nothing to do with practical solutions or human compassion'- that's all just bullshit used to cover for the fact they're frantically building a Democratic vote factory as fast as they can screw it together- why would we be lending them a helping hand with that?

But according to The Great One -even though those votes will hurt the GOP over the long-run- their eventual citizenship shouldn't even be our most pressing concern. The biggest problem would be the dramatic -and immediate- impact the legalization would have on welfare/Obamacare entitlements, both of which will be supporting foreign citizens that broke-into our (totally broke) country.


While it's difficult to know for sure if the inside-the-beltway Republican establishment actually believe their new current Open Borders Lite claptrap, they surely find the issue convenient in diverting blame for their own piss-poor performance in last week's election towards conservatives: since Romney needed to take a hawkish position on immigration to secure the nomination, the fattest asses in the GOP are now attempting to paint this and other issues dear-to-the-Right as contributing heavily to his defeat (yes, for some in the RNC, Mittens wasn't moderate enough). What's the difference -if any- between the RNC's model candidate and a Blue Dog Democrat? I keep forgetting...



And it's not just the RNC, Karl Rove, and John Boehner we need to worry about: now Rand Paul apparently sees political opportunity -for himself- in crafting his very own plan for 'eventual path to citizenship' -not just amnesty- for ALL illegals... and he thinks he can do it 'in a way conservatives can support'. 

With all due respect, Senator- WE'LL decide what we're willing to support... and it ain't that

As John Hawkins put it (highlights Ed.)-
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Of all the misguided, corrupt and deranged ideas floating around inside the D.C. bubble, perhaps the single worst one is giving illegal aliens amnesty as part of some sort of attempt to capture the Hispanic vote. 


If the GOP were to pursue a policy that primarily benefits corrupt business owners, the government of Mexico, and Democrats at the expense of our country and our own base, we'd truly deserve the "Stupid Party" moniker that has so often been hung around our neck. 


This policy wouldn't be a calculated risk or even a longshot; it would be a game of Russian Roulette with a bullet in every chamber...


Read why @ Right Wing News


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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: amnesty; gop; immigration; republicans

1 posted on 11/14/2012 6:48:47 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: AdvisorB; ken5050; sten

*** PING ***


2 posted on 11/14/2012 6:49:37 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

That persons’ name is Rupert Murdoch


3 posted on 11/14/2012 6:50:55 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The Wall banger?

Sorry don’t listen to, or watch that cheer leader for RINOs.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 6:52:26 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Reaganite Republican

I don’t dislike Hannity, but I no longer listen to him.

RINOs are anathema in my world, and I consider them to be simply clueless braindead folks on their way to becoming the dreaded zombilib.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 6:55:15 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Reaganite Republican

Amnesty guarantees that America will FAIL. Anyone who supports it is either a fool, or a traitor. Emphasis on the latter.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 6:55:22 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Reaganite Republican
Hannity has jumped on the amnesty bandwagon...he was pulled up there by his amigo Juan McShame, Grahamnesty, Hatch, Rubio (we saw this coming before the election), Bonehead and now, sadly, Rand Paul.

Why ANY Republican would push for something that automatically give Dims MILLIONS of new voters, is beyond me. They will NOT assimilate and they will NOT vote Republican.

7 posted on 11/14/2012 6:57:17 AM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: Reaganite Republican

From someone who touts martin Luther king as the second coming

Are you surprised?


8 posted on 11/14/2012 6:58:21 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: GeronL

You know GL if you dig into how FOX News runs it looks like Ailes has 100% control

As long as he fills Rupert’s war chests


9 posted on 11/14/2012 7:03:29 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Jane Long

“Why ANY Republican ...”

The DC machine is afraid of Americans in Flyover Country asserting their states rights...and is attempting to dilute that potential. The fact that anybody in DC could even THINK of an amnesty discussion in the context of 12-15% unemployment should be terrifying to anybody outside the Beltway.

Wake-UP!!!

the Two Party system is an illusion.

the Two Parties are DC-Flyover Country...and all makes sense in DC when you start examining it from that perspective....and turning off the COINTELPRO they’re spewing.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 7:15:11 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Your name is particularly ironic, since Reagan was one of the first - or perhaps it was the very first - to grant an “amnesty” way back in 1986.

Unless we work out a permanent solution, we’re just going to go from amnesty to amnesty, not to mention getting a “policy” governed by executive order (such as when Obama took large numbers from the Latin American quota to give more spaces to African Muslims, almost all of whom are probably still on welfare).


11 posted on 11/14/2012 7:19:41 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

“Unless we work out a permanent solution...”

It’s called enforcing the immigration laws, and hasn’t been done since the 1950s when President Eisenhower shipped a million or so wetbacks back home to Mexico.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 7:49:50 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The governing of out country is not a football game!

We don’t “assess our loss” in terms of what the other side did to “win”.

Hannity is in the locker room watching film of the other team and adopting their strategy to “use against them”.

RINO’s...BEGONE!


13 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:43 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

LOL @ the headline.....I had a brief vision of Hannity sitting all still and blank-eyed, a trapdoor open in his back, while someone tinkers with a screwdriver.....

It fits.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 7:53:00 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Jane Long
But read comments on the you tubes, the yahoo threads, the comments sections on links to LA Times articles. Granted, you see a lot of entitlement liberal idiots, but you see a lot of pretty level-headed folks who understand what a load of crap big government liberalism actually IS, and it's starting to dawn on some of them that elections have gotten downright stinky in America lately.

They are voting anyway. In my small town a Mexican, who could barely speak English, wanted to vote. The lady at the polling place, with me watching, who knows what she would have done unwatched, told him that he needed proof of residence, such as a bill, sent to him at his address. She lamented heavily that he should be able to vote, and sent him to someone else there to see if that person could help him.

I don't think most Mexicans understand, nor care that they aren't suppose to vote. They are told to vote, and for whom by the democrat voting machine, and they do so in droves. What is to stop them? The answer, nothing.

15 posted on 11/14/2012 8:32:44 AM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I wonder, did Hannity and the rest of the Good Old Panderers pushing for amnesty give their kids a pony every time they stomped their feet and said “I hate you”?

Maybe every illegal will get a free Ruth’s Chris steak certificate,too.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 8:32:44 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Bellflower

Not sure who/where you were quoting or if you meant to reply to me.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 8:39:31 AM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I stopped listening to Sean Vanity five years ago.


18 posted on 11/14/2012 8:44:13 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: TurboZamboni

You have to wonder, don’t you? They couldn’t roll over and show their bellies fast enough. There isn’t a real man among them.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 9:47:20 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

win/win-—sells some more Lifelock subscriptions to ward off crimalien ID thieves!


20 posted on 11/14/2012 10:21:06 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Jane Long
Not just Voters but America used to have a policy of integrating and only allowing
the best and the brightest. Bringing in the welfare class and uneducated is UNAMERICAN!

We hold no responsibility over citizens of other countries ""Period"". If their
governments want them to starve and stay poor it's not our fracking problem. Our job is to
protect them while they are in those countries in a fashion to which they may have the chance
to become free if their Gov will allow it. The poor will certainly bring their
socialist UNAMERICAN voting habits here because they are to damn stupid to know better.

Hannity you stupid cocktail party idiot. You've fallen into the socialite trap of going
with the crowd to become accepted into the ""circle"' at the cost of your own integrity. Idiot, and yes I'm pissed off...

21 posted on 11/14/2012 10:33:05 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Bellflower
Sorry about that. I meant to reply to you but put down a wrong quote, not yours. This is how it should have been:

Why ANY Republican would push for something that automatically give Dims MILLIONS of new voters, is beyond me. They will NOT assimilate and they will NOT vote Republican.

With my reply to you:

They are voting anyway. In my small town a Mexican, who could barely speak English, wanted to vote. The lady at the polling place, with me watching, who knows what she would have done unwatched, told him that he needed proof of residence, such as a bill, sent to him at his address. She lamented heavily that he should be able to vote, and sent him to someone else there to see if that person could help him.

I don't think most Mexicans understand, nor care that they aren't suppose to vote. They are told to vote, and for whom by the democrat voting machine, and they do so in droves. What is to stop them? The answer, nothing.

My point being that Hannity and others may be beginning to realize that Mexicans are voting, getting all kinds of government benefits, and essentially acting as citizens even though they aren't, so what do we gain by making ourselves anathema to them, by refusing to let them get amnesty? The border are3 not closed and they keep coming in by the droves. Right now they belong to the democrats, because they are perceived as being friendly to them. They should, if not on moral grounds alone, belong to us. We don't even try to win them over, because we refuse to understand the fact, that right now it is not going to change, that they, though illegally, and orchestrated by the democrats, almost all vote. But because we are because of stubbornness, and strong held principles, though we may be sacrificing the bigger battle in the process, refuse to let become citizens.

Ronald Reagan allowed for an amnesty, with the provision that the borders would then be closed. This was a good compromise, but what happened of course, is the borders remained softer than butter. The thing that we believe is that Mexicans coming here rob our jobs. Because of vast rates of abortion and a decrease in the white population we would have had a population deficit. especially with the baby boomers needing care, and not enough young to pay for it or give it. The Mexicans could have been and many are productive citizens, not moochers, if handled properly.

My point is that if we had Conservative principles running this Country, we would have enough wealth and jobs to cover those who were born here, and those who came in illegally, but the border must be closed, which while Democrats are in control will not happen. I wish we had been able to control immigration legally, but it didn't happen, and isn't happening, to our detriment. What Hannity and others may be considering is that somehow we need to deal with reality as it is.

Are we prepared to go through every city and town in the USA and deport every Mexican? That is our other option. Is it feasible? If it is, we could do that, but the problem is can it ever be accomplished with all of these illegal Mexicans and blacks continuously voting in democrats that they view as friendly towards them. Whatever we do, we must deal with reality as it is right now, not as we dream that it should be. It sickens me to think this way, but what are the solutions that can actually be worked out in reality as it is right now? Do you have real and working ideas on what should and can play out in reality?

22 posted on 11/14/2012 3:35:32 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

RINO’s selling what is not theirs to sell.

The amount of “political capital” that RINO’s keep “envisioning” as a reward for appeasement, would fit the head of a pin.

That amounts to a lot of “money” with nothing backing it, but the full faith and credit of The Republican Party Hair Club for Men.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 3:52:13 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thx Cath lol

It would be a shame to watch Fox News continue to stick with discredited GOP types like Karl Rove, Ann Coulter, Bill Kristol, etc- they’re not doing us much good at all,
and Hannity sounds more like them everyday


24 posted on 11/15/2012 12:22:02 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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