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Top Iowa Conservative: The Republican Civil War has already started 
Business Insider ^ | |Nov. 7, 2012, 10:33 AM | Grace Wyler

Posted on 11/07/2012 9:40:48 PM PST by Kevmo

"He [Romney] killed us all over the country. Look at [same-sex] marriage. We've never lost the issue before, until it shared a ballot with Romney then we lost it four times on one day. Heck, we even won marriage in California on Election Day 2008 for goodness sake.

There will never be another establishment candidate like that. Jeb Bush, Chris Christie...those people will never happen. Heck, I think Christie will be driven out of the GOP and be the next Charlie Crist. Mitt just killed Republicans in my home state. People are angry, especially because Matt Drudge and Karl Rove told us it was all in the bag all along, after they got done smearing conservatives in the primary and dumping on Todd Akin.

It's on like Donkey Kong."

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1 posted on 11/07/2012 9:40:56 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

I think we also can agree that liberaltarians as they are now known are the natural enemies of conservatives.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 9:43:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kevmo

Dems had 4 years to prepare for Romney since they checked him out in 2008. For this reason it is not a good idea to pick the losers from last time.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 9:44:04 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: Kevmo

Who voted for Romney during all those primaries? Ghosts? Democrats? Repubs? Who??


4 posted on 11/07/2012 9:44:11 PM PST by entropy12 (The radical socialist from Chicago and Acorn lawyer must be defeated! VOTE him out!!)
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To: Kevmo

Akin crapped the bed himself.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 9:45:58 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: entropy12

He won by attrition. He had a small but consistent base and knocked down each flavor of the week one by one.

Part of the problem was that Perry really was the strongest alternative but he botched up during the debates and looked like another Dubya. Nobody wanted that again.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 9:46:46 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: Lou Budvis

“Akin crapped the bed himself.”

And turned himself into a national issue.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 9:48:23 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: Kevmo

Good.

Bring it on. Let’s have a Republican “civil war.”

It’s long overdue.

Check out Mark Levin’s statement on this today:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/07/mark_levin_gives_unvarnished_truth_on_romney_loss.html


8 posted on 11/07/2012 9:48:48 PM PST by NYCslicker
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To: entropy12

All those democraps that switched party.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 9:49:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Kevmo

The Deacebag is a ‘top Iowa conservative’?

In his own mind maybe.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 9:50:12 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: entropy12

A large number of demorats in open primary states and the establishment bluebloods thats who.South carolina showed what we conservatives thought of romney and we raised hell on this websight about him as well.Where are all the rombots now that he got his ass kicked?


11 posted on 11/07/2012 9:50:59 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ari-freedom

No, Cain was the best bet but unfortunately, this clown folded like an accordion at a really simple problem easily solved by PR people: issues of infidelity. All he had to do was pull a Clinton and say ‘i messed up’.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 9:51:27 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: NYCslicker

I couldn’t sit through that video. Bandwidth issues, basically waiting way too long for Levin to get to the point.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 9:55:40 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: ari-freedom; entropy12
He won by attrition. He had a small but consistent base and knocked down each flavor of the week one by one.

That wasn't the only thing though, remember convention story where the bus circled the convention three times, refusing to let the delegates [from VA?] get to the convention in time to vote on a rule-change? It was about a rule change that benefited Romney; further do you remember the several states where Ron Paul supporters got him in and then the GOP retroactively changed the rules?

Romney wasn't just a liberal, he was anointed and foisted on us.
I, for one, am not disappointed he lost -- for that built on a lie is never stable.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 9:57:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: entropy12
“Who voted for Romney during all those primaries? Ghosts? Democrats? Repubs? Who”

About 35% of the primary voters....yet in most cases Romney got all of the States delegates.

If a primary candidate cant get 50.1% of the vote in a state primary then the delegates shoukld be awarded to each candidate on a proportional basis and the nominee get decided at the convention.

Giving a liberal all the states delegates because he got 35% of the vote was stupid.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 10:02:01 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: NYCslicker

Good. Bring it on. Let’s have a Republican “civil war.” It’s long overdue.
***What do you think should be the keyword for articles like this?

RepublicanCivilWar
gopversusconservatives
nomorecinos

???


16 posted on 11/07/2012 10:03:25 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

What a sour grapes article. Akin blew up himself. Murdoch, did it to himself. Both were leading on their own. Furthermore, Romney won both Indiana and Missouri anyway, so suggesting Romney hurt those guys is a complete joke, they did it to themselves.

Gay marriage in Washington and Minnesota, it was going to pass no matter what. Get used to it, the blue states want it and this is just the beginning. I don’t have to like it, none of us do but that is reality.

Times, they are a changing.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 10:03:35 PM PST by muwarriors92
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To: entropy12

Who voted for Romney during all those primaries? Ghosts? Democrats? Repubs? Who??
***70% of the primary voters voted AGAINST him, voting for ABR.

I’ve said for a long time that we need to change the primary system. From my home page:

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Here’s how I think primaries should be organized:

My suggestion is basically to hold the first primary in the state that has the highest percentage of GOP votes in the last election, the 2nd primary in the 2nd highest, and so on. 2 primaries a week for 25 weeks, with the last primaries being the suckup-to-the-democrats. And the democrats could easily have their primary schedule the same way, if they wanted.

This way, if a state is 60% republican, there is still incentive for them to get out the vote for 61% republican so they can bump up their state in the primary schedule.

Also: Rotate all the states (even the big ones) through an early schedule so that everyone gets access at some point to the front line.

OR

Let each state bid when they want their primary to take place. The earlier the primary, the fewer the delegates they control according to some logarithmic or steep curve formula.

18 posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:55:08 AM by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962610/posts?page=18#18

Second thing is the order of the primaries should be determined by the percentage of republicans in the last vote. The higher the %pubbie, the sooner the state appears on the primary schedule, with a mix of big & little states and our staunchest republican states get to go FIRST. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=862#862

24 posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 8:52:29 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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18 posted on 11/07/2012 10:06:38 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Wow, sounds really haaaard and diiiiificult.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 10:07:14 PM PST by NYCslicker
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To: Kevmo

SicSemperRhinocerus


20 posted on 11/07/2012 10:08:27 PM PST by NYCslicker
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To: GeronL
I think we also can agree that liberaltarians as they are now known are the natural enemies of conservatives.

At the risk of inciting a riot, I have to disagree. It appears to have been the loonie holier-than-thou moralists who were willing to throw the entire nation under the bus to protect their holy purity.

"Libertarians" aren't the ones who stayed home and gave us another four years of hell and worse.

21 posted on 11/07/2012 10:09:20 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Kevmo

Blow up the team.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 10:09:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: muwarriors92

What a sour grapes article.
***Nuthin’ sour about those grapes. We know they’re sweet, so we were building a ladder (political coalition) to get to them. Unfortunately, the guy who sells us wood for the ladder handed over termite infested boards. Now the blame comes, deservedly so.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 10:10:39 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: muwarriors92

Gay marriage in Washington and Minnesota, it was going to pass no matter what. Get used to it, the blue states want it and this is just the beginning.
***I’m in California, dark blue state, and we knocked down gay marriage handily. You don’t have to accept the unacceptable.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 10:15:20 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: entropy12

Democrats and Blue blooded Leftist rinos. Never was for Romney. I even kicked and screamed in here after the Primary and even after the convention about Romney. It is high time for the civil war and possible the creation of a new party. This is what is holding us back from winning.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 10:19:00 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Kevmo

You are all a broken record. Nobody would have beat Obama. the press was set to seek and destroy. Romney was a great candidate and totally qualified to leas this country out of the wilderness.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 10:22:13 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Hildy

>Romney was a great candidate and totally qualified to leas this country out of the wilderness.<

Just like Joseph Smith?


27 posted on 11/07/2012 10:24:26 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Lets not forget the 3 primaries Romney was declared the winner and later, sometime after the next primary there was a correction of whoops sorry he did not win. Also the polls that claimed he was the only candidate that could beat Obama with predictions of beating Obama by 5 to 8 percent.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 10:24:39 PM PST by brightright
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To: John Valentine

“appears”

based on what?


29 posted on 11/07/2012 10:30:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: John Valentine

Liberaltarians are the ones who are giddy and gleeful today

Anyone willing to watch a liberal RINO lose -again- and then blame conservative Christians by using words like “Witch burning Shiite Christian bible thumpers”....

They are my mortal enemies.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 10:32:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hildy

So now Jimmy Carter 2 has morphed into Reagan of 1984, as ‘unbeatable’ by anyone?

Romney was a disaster, and he has been a loser his entire 20 years of running for office.

In 2008 he spent 150 million dollars to get beaten by two guys with no money, called McCain and Huckabee, and in 2012, Mitt got stomped by Jimmy Carter.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 10:34:05 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Hildy

Nobody would have beat Obama.
***Let’s look at the Vote totals:

2008:
OBama 69,297,997
McCain: 59,597,520

2012:
Obama: 54,773,837
Romney 53,716,689

Looks like a whole lot of voters stayed home.

Obama -15M
Romney -6M

So, Romney got 6M votes LESS than McLame did, in a poor economy. Are you saying McLame was a better candidate? Palin was the one who propped up McLame. If she were the candidate she wouldn’t have had a gender gap & would have sent the bass turd packing.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 10:35:37 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: John Valentine
It appears to have been the loonie holier-than-thou moralists who were willing to throw the entire nation under the bus to protect their holy purity.

Who specifically, the very tiny number of the anti-Christians who vote republican?

The Evangelicals who voted 79% for Romney?

The Catholics who only voted 48% for Romney?

The social liberals who only vote by tiny numbers for republicans?

Who?

33 posted on 11/07/2012 10:38:53 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Lou Budvis

True. Just give a tea party noob, a micriphone and about 4 or 5 weeks and he is darn near garanteed to step on his dork.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 10:38:53 PM PST by ping jockey (tagline free zone)
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To: GeronL

TEA party candidates or more accurately , The Not Ready For Prime Time Players!


35 posted on 11/07/2012 10:40:06 PM PST by ping jockey (tagline free zone)
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To: ping jockey

Like Ted Cruz?


36 posted on 11/07/2012 10:41:16 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: ansel12

He could only win in Texas.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 10:42:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Free Vulcan
In his own mind maybe.

No doubt...I cannot believe that people listen to him...but then, most of his target audience is rather low on the IQ scale. He and BVP are the supreme leaders of a gaggle of idiots.

38 posted on 11/07/2012 10:50:31 PM PST by garandgal
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To: ansel12

No. Even blind hogs find a mushroom once in a while but there is no denying that we are 3 to 5 senate seats lite because TEA party senate candidates can’t keep their yaps shut about the social conservative agenda.

Win on the economic and foreign policy issues. Do it over and over again. After a few cycles slowly get the sheeple drifting in the “right” direction. Maybe we can get it back faster than the 40 yrs it took liberals to take it.

Keep making stupid remarks, “ I am not a witch”, and then the twin towers of galactic stupidity Akin and Murdock’s last foray into politics. Good grief. Keep this kinda’crap up and dog catcher will be “off the table.”


39 posted on 11/07/2012 10:51:38 PM PST by ping jockey (tagline free zone)
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To: max americana

What infidelity? The women magically disappeared when he was no longer running.

If you’ve got proof, put up or shut up.

They were dug up by Axelrod. Thanks to people like you, we lost.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 10:52:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know what that means, he ran for Senator in Texas, as a Palin backed tea party candidate and won by a wide margin and is a future presidential contender probably.

He was not supposed to even have a chance against Dewhurst.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 10:53:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: GeronL

No, we can’t agree on that.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 10:53:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ping jockey

“because TEA party senate candidates”

Look at Romney’s turnout. He failed to get the same people who voted for John McCain to vote for him.

Had he got McCain’s turnout, all those close losses would have resulted in victory.

This is all on Romney, not the tea party.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:10 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: ansel12

Do you think Cruz would have won in any other state, outside of maybe Oklahoma or Alabama?


44 posted on 11/07/2012 10:55:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ping jockey

Hey Rombot, your boy’s done. Time to pack your bags and slink back to the Democrats.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 10:56:18 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Kevmo

It ain’t started here

we are still infected with race pandering weak minded numbnuts

blathering about hispanic outreach


46 posted on 11/07/2012 10:56:55 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Thanks to people like you, we lost.”

Not me. Blame those idiots who voted for Odumbo. And regardless of proof as you say, how he handled it was extremely poor. If he could not handle an easy problem, then he should not run in the first place.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:17 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: ping jockey

Marco Rubio?

You don’t like the tea party because they have had so many successes for so long and are moving the party closer to Reagan, your man Romney was an absolute disaster for the republicans, just a nightmare.

Romney was a disaster, and he has been a loser his entire 20 years of running for office.

In 2008 he spent 150 million dollars to get beaten by two guys with no money, called McCain and Huckabee, and in 2012, Mitt got stomped by Jimmy Carter.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Kevmo

“So, Romney got 6M votes LESS than McLame did, in a poor economy. Are you saying McLame was a better candidate?Palin was the one who propped up McLame. If she were the candidate she wouldn’t have had a gender gap & would have sent the bass turd packing.”

Imagine if Romney had McCain’s turnout of 59 million people? He would have won easily. This is all on Romney.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:55 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: dfwgator

“Do you think Cruz would have won in any other state, outside of maybe Oklahoma or Alabama?”

Absolutely, have you see the man’s resume?


50 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:59 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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