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The Fusion Revolution
The Renewable Energy Disaster ^ | Nov 2011 | Christopher Calder

Posted on 11/14/2011 11:34:43 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: Wonder Warthog

Feel free to post your proof that Miami-Dade have granted PD Rossi a variance to build fusion reactors in his fifth-floor walkup. Until then, I’m just going to go with the simplest explanation: the whole thing is a scam.


201 posted on 11/17/2011 4:15:05 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

I know. I just think it is hilarious that all these gullible marks believe this guy has a fusion nuclear reaction going on but there have been no government licensing or regulatory actions by either Rossi or any government.


202 posted on 11/17/2011 4:30:50 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: dinodino

Neither scientific nor technical......ignore.


203 posted on 11/17/2011 6:36:34 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: dinodino

He’s done that with more than one company. He’s used the legitimate names of at least two companies that could be considered in the area of Rossi’s work. I can’t find them but I will run across them and be sure to publish that part of his scam.

One other thing I’ve noticed, Freepers who I thought were decent people turn out to be the biggest d*ickheads on the board. So far, I’ve got five on my list. I don’t know why this topic brings it out of them.

I like how his fake degree from Kensington doesn’t seem to bother folks. If I was hiring an engineer and he had credentials, I would assume that he has taken the required classes, knows his field and is ready to work. Now, suppose Rossi came in with his bogus claim but no one noticed, he might be able to pull it off but sooner or later (probably sooner) someone is going to notice and a call will go out to Kensington?? to see what kind of student he was (this is assuming this is his first job out of college).

So, not only did he end up screwing the company that hired him but he also screwed the more qualified applicant. I like how folks just hand waive that part away.

Maybe he really is a brilliant genius, I’ve yet to see that part in his tests but hey, what do I know?


204 posted on 11/17/2011 7:48:30 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: dinodino

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Where was the factory in Ferrari? Ferrara? that he used an ECAT to heat for a year? Where’s that ECAT? Why can’t it be examined. Another thing, at the beginning of the year, his ECATS were tiny L shaped devices; these are what heated his factory? Now they’re large boxes and he gives the impression that this is the version he used to heat his factory.


205 posted on 11/17/2011 7:52:26 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: dinodino
There is ZERO chance that he is allowed to build nuclear reactors there.

I agree but my reason has nothing to do with zoning laws.

206 posted on 11/17/2011 7:54:45 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: dinodino

I would like to see his Nuclear Reactor Permits.... Even windmills require permits anymore.


207 posted on 11/17/2011 8:36:34 PM PST by dila813
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To: Lx

There is a mental condition that marks are affected by....when people tell them they are being scammed, they feel insulted and push back.

Deep in their hearts and heads, they know you are right, but they will deny it even after Rossi is locked up in Prison.

There will be stories told for the next 30 years that the military industrial complex or the some other big company shut him down.

All bs.....so sad.


208 posted on 11/17/2011 8:42:25 PM PST by dila813
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To: ZX12R

20 years ago, somebody set up a table top device that created a little extra heat. Today, lots of people set up table top devices that make a little extra heat. Not much of a revolution, if you ask me.
***It’s more than a “little extra heat” but I can accept that it’s chemical in nature. No need for NRC oversight.


209 posted on 11/17/2011 10:06:10 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Johnny B.

Rossi could prove the skeptics wrong at any time.
***True. He chose not to. Levi was a skeptic who has become a proponent of Rossi. No doubt whoever the customers are, they are skeptic until they put cash on the barrel head.


210 posted on 11/17/2011 10:08:29 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Johnny B.

As opposed to you, who has posted every silly little blog entry that supports Rossi?
***There are tons of blog entries that I have decided not to post. There’s an entire feud between Rossi and Krivit that seems to have escaped the notice of most freeper LENR seagulls because most of it wasn’t posted.


211 posted on 11/17/2011 10:24:04 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Johnny B.

Since hearing about Rossi and his E-Cat, I’ve been researching known “energy” frauds.
***I was posting LENR threads before Rossi & his E-cat came along. Maybe you should investigate LENR.


212 posted on 11/17/2011 10:25:43 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
***It’s more than a “little extra heat” but I can accept that it’s chemical in nature. No need for NRC oversight.
Are you calling Rossi a liar? Rossi claims that his E-Cat converts Nickel into Copper. No chemical process can do that.

In fact, the Nickel "fuel" and the Nickel/Copper/Iron "ash" is the only physical evidence that Rossi has presented regarding how the E-Cat supposedly works.

I have, more than once, presented a fairly detailed post explaining how those samples actually contradict Rossi's claim. Nobody has posted a serious rebuttal to it. I guess the Rossi fanboys don't want a serious discussion.

213 posted on 11/18/2011 3:17:40 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo
Since hearing about Rossi and his E-Cat, I’ve been researching known “energy” frauds.
***I was posting LENR threads before Rossi & his E-cat came along. Maybe you should investigate LENR.
There is much more solid evidence of fraud than of LENR.

You have, in the past, proudly posted that you would not read any of the fraud links I've been providing. Maybe you should take your own advice and investigate that.

BTW, are you getting a good feeling that Rossi's new European Partner is a pretty obvious fraud itself? They are trying to sell a perpetual motion machine. There's no evidence that they've actually sold one (let alone proven that it works), but I'm sure they've been able to find investors to keep them in the money for several years now. Just what Rossi is hoping for.

214 posted on 11/18/2011 3:29:42 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Lx

I know! The fake degree is the BIGGEST red flag ever! There is absolutely, positively, no legitimate, honest, good reason for anyone EVER to purchase a fake degree. This fact alone should thoroughly discredit Rossi!


215 posted on 11/18/2011 4:07:47 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Johnny B.

Who is the new European partner? I *love* perpetual motion machines—they’re hilarious! Maybe Rossi and his partner can enter a cross-selling agreement?


216 posted on 11/18/2011 4:09:22 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Kevmo

Unfortunately, Rossi claims his process to be nuclear, and even claims to be using nuclear enrichment on his fuel.


217 posted on 11/18/2011 4:10:23 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Who is the new European partner?

HERE is the original post. Rossi has confirmed this business relationship on his professional journal blog.

HERE is the link to the inventor of the perpetual motion machine the company is currently "selling".

And HERE is a link to the company's web page, including an English translation of the "Products" page.

Enjoy!

218 posted on 11/18/2011 5:13:58 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
"I have, more than once, presented a fairly detailed post explaining how those samples actually contradict Rossi's claim. Nobody has posted a serious rebuttal to it. I guess the Rossi fanboys don't want a serious discussion."

"It was reported that two Swedish scientists who participated in the October 6 testing of Energy Catalyzer, Professor Hanno Essén and Professor Sven Kullander have also tested the byproducts of the E-Cat. They report “elemental and isotopic analysis was performed on the samples utilizing both X-ray Fluorescence and Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry. The result was that the fresh nickel powder was almost totally pure nickel, but the nickel powder that had been in an E-Cat contained 10% copper and 11% iron. Two of the copper isotopes detected were Cu63 and Cu65”. Obviously, the above results are proof of a fusion reaction taking place in the E-Cat reactor! Now those tests need to be confirmed by others."

Maybe you oughta post that analysis again, because the above info seems to contradict it. Note that Rossi sent a BLANK SAMPLE along with the "used" material.

So, apparently, the DATA from the TWO samples shows that the E-Cat converts Ni to Cu and perhaps Fe. Now, maybe the isotopic analysis of the Cu and Fe don't differ from "natural abundance". but given that we have no clue as to the actual mechanism of the transformations, one CANNOT draw the conclusion from the isotope ratios that "it's a scam", when the elemental analysis plainly shows formation of Cu and Fe.

Well, one "can" draw that conclusion if one is a pathological skeptic. The correct approach is to reserve judgment and await clarifying data.

I note in passing that the info in bold comes directly from the people who did the analysis, and not a verbal quotation from someone else who "talked to them".

219 posted on 11/18/2011 5:19:46 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The result was that the fresh nickel powder was almost totally pure nickel, but the nickel powder that had been in an E-Cat contained 10% copper and 11% iron. Two of the copper isotopes detected were Cu63 and Cu65”.
I'm sorry, I thought you understood this stuff.

63Cu and 65Cu are both naturally-occurring isotopes of Copper. Their presence doesn't prove, or even suggest, that there was any type of nuclear process involved. This is entirely consistent with Rossi mixing some Nickel powder with some Copper powder and some Iron powder, using nothing more sophisticated than a kitchen scale.

Your quote (it would have been appropriate to include a link) doesn't mention anything about the isotope ratio of the elements. The article I posted (to which I did include a link) stated that the isotope ratio of both the Nickel and Copper were identical to those found in nature.

Come back when you understand the difference between an element and an isotope, and when you can explain how Rossi can claim to be "enhancing" the Nickel isotope ratios, and claim to be "transmuting" Nickel into Copper, without making any changes to the natural isotope ratio.

220 posted on 11/18/2011 5:59:46 AM PST by Johnny B.
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