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Ask Dr. Helen: Should Prince William Wear a Wedding Ring?
Pajamas Media ^ | April 5, 2011 | Helen Smith

Posted on 04/05/2011 5:44:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

The English street is up in arms over William's choice not to wear one.

Shortwave8669 sends a question from his iPhone:

Dear Dr. Helen,

I see in the news that Prince William will not be wearing a wedding ring after marrying Kate Middleton. Is this decision different than a wife that does not take her husband’s last name?

I see many are upset at his decision but we no longer notice what I think is a similar female choice. Why? Both decisions seem of equivalent impact.

Shortwave

Dear Shortwave,

Apparently, many people are discussing the issue of Prince William’s wedding ring as evidenced by this BBC news show on the topic. In the show, the Brits on the street were asked if he should wear one, and they had a variety of answers:

“Who does he think he is?”

“In modern times, young men don’t like to wear a ring.”

“We all know he’s getting married, so what’s the difference?”

On the same show, a news panel with two men and two women weighed in. One woman thought he absolutely should wear a ring, as it is “a symbol of love” and because William is a “self-proclaimed cad.” A man on the panel said this was “rubbish, and just about women’s lib more than anything else. In modern times, it is a personal choice and if William doesn’t want to wear a ring, he shouldn’t.”

So what is the tradition of men wearing a wedding ring? According to eHow (perhaps not the most credible source, but I thought this post to be sensible), it is this:

Wedding rings for men became more accepted during World War II. Soldiers wore rings to represent commitment to wives at home. Today, some men choose to wear or forgo wedding rings for various professional or cultural reasons. Some men wear wedding rings, like women, to represent the commitment they have made. Other men choose not to wear rings because they avoid jewelry or because cultural or religious traditions discourage rings for men.

I have to say: I am personally torn. On one hand I can see wearing a wedding ring as a symbol of commitment and love, but on the other I agree with the male panelist at the BBC who said it was “all about women’s lib.” Just as women used to think they were seen as possessions of men (which may or may not have been true), men are now seen as indentured servants who exist to serve women’s needs and desires.

I can understand not wanting to wear a ring; they are inconvenient, and for people who don’t like jewelry, a real pain. Or William may feel that traditionally men did not wear rings, and he likes this tradition. Who knows? As one of the panelists above at the BBC said: “It’s his personal decision.” If a woman didn’t want to wear a ring, my guess is everyone would say: “You go, girl!” — just as they would if the woman did not want to take her husband’s name. That was tradition, so women decided to break it.

So can William. “You go, boy,” and don’t let anyone tell you how to live your life or interfere in your marriage, even if you are the potential king of England.

What do you readers think: ring or no ring? Do you wear one or not?


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: princewilliam; royals; weddingbells
As long as he knows he's married and as long as Kate is alright with him, not wanting to wear a wedding ring it's no one's business
1 posted on 04/05/2011 5:44:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

They get their knickers in a knot about this.

Meanwhile, Sharia is creeping into the UK.


2 posted on 04/05/2011 5:50:45 AM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: PogySailor

“They” being some on that BBC panel.


3 posted on 04/05/2011 5:51:40 AM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: Kaslin

Nobody’s business but William and his wife.

I don’t wear one, or a watch, or a necklace, or an ear ring , and my tongue isn’t pierced.

People do not have to adorn themselves with jewelry.


4 posted on 04/05/2011 5:53:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: PogySailor
Meanwhile, Sharia is creeping into the UK.

Good point - the real poll should be whether the princess should wear a burka.

5 posted on 04/05/2011 5:57:24 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kaslin

The only ring I’m concerned about is the large sapphire that Kate M. wears. It was Diana’s engagement ring and I just think it’s a very unlucky ring. And I don’t believe in good and bad luck - generally. The fact that it wasn’t even put into a new setting also gives me the creeps. That ring did not represent a happy or even very sane marriage.


6 posted on 04/05/2011 6:00:57 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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To: Kaslin

he is not less married without a ring.

for non-prince williams men, rings are an impediment at work or just plain annoying.

Besides it is more money for jewelry for women.


7 posted on 04/05/2011 6:04:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Venturer

Exactly


8 posted on 04/05/2011 6:06:42 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: miss marmelstein

this time the bride knows the kooky family she is entering and they have a pre-nup.

BTW are we talking about wedding bands or a seperate ring? if it is a seperate ring OTHER than a regular wedding band then it is over the line into fruity territory.


9 posted on 04/05/2011 6:08:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Depending on the job that someone does, a wedding ring or any ring can be dangerous


10 posted on 04/05/2011 6:09:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

2 Marriages 2 wedding rings, 1 marriage no ring, guess which one lasted 3x the other two combined? Besides I never was one for jewelery, marriage is more of the heart, not the trinket.


11 posted on 04/05/2011 6:16:22 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: Kaslin
(1) The World War II thing is nonsense: men have been wearing wedding rings since at least the 1000s (certainly earler than that, it was in the 1000s that Church sacramentaries began including a formal blessing specifically for the rings).

(2) Prince William is, in theory, a future head of the Church of England. A wedding ring is part of the Book of Common Prayer ceremony. One may argue that wearing a ring is "his personal choice" - but he considers himself a prince. He is not a purely private individual.

12 posted on 04/05/2011 6:16:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kaslin
I frequently work with power tools, my wife used to get upset becasue I would take my ring off when at work. I showed her some pictures of the results of people getting rings and other jewelry items caught in equipment.

No arguments after that.

13 posted on 04/05/2011 6:40:46 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: miss marmelstein
Aside from its fascination due to emotional and monetary value, I find the Di engagement ring to be singularly klutzy and un-stylish.....and impossible to wear with most garb except formal blue-compatible colors.

Leni

14 posted on 04/05/2011 6:41:20 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Obama....you'll have to pry all my incandescent lightbulbs from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Kaslin

Hooligans rule GB

Union thugs rule USA

Muslim Brotherhood ruling the middle east

Anarchists running mobs in every country.

All’s well in Obama’s world


15 posted on 04/05/2011 6:46:06 AM PDT by Carley (UNION AGITATORS, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: wideawake

What do you mean he considers himself a prince? By that logic any Great Britain can consider him or herself a prince or a princess


16 posted on 04/05/2011 6:46:47 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: longtermmemmory

They have a pre-nup? Didn’t know that. She is one attractive gal.


17 posted on 04/05/2011 6:51:11 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Kaslin
What do you mean he considers himself a prince?

He has not renounced the title, so I conclude that he considers himself a prince of England - which carries with it a number of public responsibilities.

18 posted on 04/05/2011 7:00:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kaslin

Wearing a wedding ring is just an old tradition - like having a royal family.

I don’t care what this idiot does. But, tradition is the only thing that keeps his family living in splendor and wealth. One would think the royals would have the good sense to embrace tradition.

Sooner or later, modern-thinking Brits will decide to do away with the expense of the royalty, and the royal family will all cry “But what of our ancient traditions!?”. lol That’ll be a hard sell if they continue to snub English and Western traditions at every turn...


19 posted on 04/05/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: Kaslin

What’s the big deal? I’m married and don’t wear a wedding ring. Why? Because I have never worn a ring except for the brief times when I put one on and panicked because I felt my finger quickly swelling up. Maybe it was in my mind but any ring on my finger feels highly uncomfortable.


20 posted on 04/05/2011 7:07:05 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (The Coupon Whisperer)
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To: Kaslin

Does it matter? Everyone but the dead on earth will know he’s married!


21 posted on 04/05/2011 7:18:15 AM PDT by mancini
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To: Fletcher J
Sooner or later, modern-thinking Brits will decide to do away with the expense of the royalty

One can argue that the royal family are a source of revenue. They cost about $60 million a year. Tourism is about $122 billion a year.

If the Windsors account for even half of one percent of those tourism revenues, they've paid their way.

Also, the Crown Estate is theoretically the property of the royal family (though not the property of any specific monarch) and it contributes about $350 million a year to the treasury.

22 posted on 04/05/2011 7:20:25 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I’ve heard the argument that the royal family are ultimately a source of revenue. I wouldn’t know enough to argue either way, but I wouldn’t doubt it.

However, the royal’s draw is still based on the tourist’s appreciation of centuries-old traditions. Could the US establish a royal family today and enjoy the same tourism benfit? Obviously not; a week-old monarchy would be a joke, even if a super-cool person like myself were made honorary king of the USA.

Like I said, it’s not my business what the Windsors do; I just think it’s not a good move for them to shun English tradition, since they represent England and that’s ultimately what keeps the money flowing their way.


23 posted on 04/05/2011 7:48:02 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: Kaslin

When I see men who work with their hands, I tell them they shouldn’t wear rings at work. The new carbide rings make me shudder, the can’t be cut off with traditional ring cutters.


24 posted on 04/05/2011 7:53:17 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Fletcher J
I completely agree with you. The trappings of tradition are the core of the franchise.
25 posted on 04/05/2011 7:54:27 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kaslin
men are..servants who exist to serve women’s needs and desires

That's me all over, baby.

26 posted on 04/05/2011 7:56:55 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: verga

Same.

I stopped wearing my ring after I saw a man’s finger ruined when he was jumping out of the back of an LMTV and it got caught. Bent the ring down into a cutting edge.


27 posted on 04/05/2011 8:13:32 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: PJ-Comix

I have the same problem with my fingers swelling up, so I have stopped wearing any rings.


28 posted on 04/05/2011 8:13:46 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: dangerdoc
The new carbide rings make me shudder, the can’t be cut off with traditional ring cutters.

Most EMTs carry jewelry saws in their emergency vehicles for precisely this purpose. Also, carbide rings can be cracked.

29 posted on 04/05/2011 8:24:48 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I’m no expert, but maybe the rings were used in the wedding ceremony, but not traditionally worn by men on a daily basis afterwords?


30 posted on 04/05/2011 8:33:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wideawake

Our ring cutters have carbide blades, not much use on carbide rings. Just how do you crack a carbide ring without injuring the finger? This is a real question because it is only a matter of time before I will have to do it.


31 posted on 04/05/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Kaslin

Helen draws a false parallel, IMO. Surely the female version of whether or not to wear a wedding ring is-—whether or not she wears a wedding ring. They can do it both or either as an obligation and obligatory symbol or as a choice and an option. If it’s an option and she wants to but he doesn’t, so be it—but it seems very much to be the couple’s choice.


32 posted on 04/05/2011 8:46:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dangerdoc
Our ring cutters have carbide blades, not much use on carbide rings

Jewelers' saws have industrial diamond blades.

Just how do you crack a carbide ring without injuring the finger?

A vise has been used in some cases. Cracking is apparently more dangerous for the eyes than the finger. I have no direct firsthand knowledge of the vise technique.

33 posted on 04/05/2011 8:48:16 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

OK, I googled it and see there are instructions on cracking a carbide ring. I just need to buy a vice grip to leave at work and hope that the technique works when I try it.

I heard about another emergency room that had a deal with a local dentist who would cut off the rings with his diamond drill.


34 posted on 04/05/2011 8:51:37 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Boogieman
I’m no expert, but maybe the rings were used in the wedding ceremony, but not traditionally worn by men on a daily basis afterwords?

The Book of Common Prayer was largely written for a pretty wealthy stratum of society.

I would guess that a sizeable percentage of the population simply could not afford wedding rings.

But I would expect that those Anglicans who could afford them wore them.

I would also expect that Nonconformists (i.e. Calvinists, Puritans, Quakers, etc.) who rejected the Prayer Book would have eschewed such rings as part of a hated ritual.

I would also point out that until the heyday of George Brummell in the 1810s, men generally wore quite a bit of jewelry. It was due to Brummell's influence as an arbiter of fashion that jewelry for men became uncommon.

35 posted on 04/05/2011 9:23:25 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: dangerdoc
OK, I googled it and see there are instructions on cracking a carbide ring. I just need to buy a vice grip to leave at work and hope that the technique works when I try it.

Could you post a link? Thanks

36 posted on 04/05/2011 11:06:33 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga

http://www.titanium-jewelry.com/about-tungsten.html


37 posted on 04/05/2011 12:23:55 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Domalais; verga

Yep, rings are clearly a needless harzard when working construction and similar activities. My father never wore his ring while on the job.

I worked with a guy that hopped out of the back of a pickup truck one weekend; something caught his ring and it peeled all the flesh off his finger - turned it inside out, basically. He had a larege, wierd bandage with metal wires running thru his finger, for a long time. It healed well enough for him to keep his finger, but with limited mobility.


38 posted on 04/06/2011 8:54:33 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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