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The Return of the Bicameral Mind
Pajamas Media ^ | Mar 10, 2010 | Richard Fernandez

Posted on 03/11/2010 11:59:01 AM PST by decimon

A Washington Post article about banning laptops in the classroom claims that professors have found themselves losing to the “cone of distraction” generated by these devices. It’s ironic because the universities themselves exerted strenuous efforts to ensure that every student had a laptop only to find them a nuisance. They mandated them only to ban them.

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Julian Jaynes in his “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind” claimed that men once heard different parts of their brain as distinct voices. “According to Jaynes, ancient people in the bicameral state would experience the world in a manner that has similarities to that of a modern-day schizophrenic. Rather than making conscious evaluations in novel or unexpected situations, the person would hallucinate a voice or ‘god’ giving admonitory advice or commands, and obey these voices without question; one would not be at all conscious of one’s own thought processes per se.” It is possible that 21st century man is hearing voices once again in that part of thinking or remembering that has been delegated to the computer.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: artificialintel; bicameralmind; consciousness; delphi; evetheory; godsgravesglyphs; julianjaynes; oracleatdelphi; oracleofdelphi; schizophrenia

1 posted on 03/11/2010 11:59:01 AM PST by decimon
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2 posted on 03/11/2010 12:06:34 PM PST by gitmo
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The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes is a powerfully thought-provoking book IMO.
3 posted on 03/11/2010 12:26:41 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes is a powerfully thought-provoking book IMO.

I read it once. My impression was that a second reading would be required to get it. He wrote of consciousness in an unconventional way.

That book seems to impress whether or not it's accepted.

4 posted on 03/11/2010 12:31:56 PM PST by decimon
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Without doubt it was a good book, even though in later years Jaynes largely recanted the book’s central thesis. It also tops the list of the most deliciously pretentious book titles of all time. When it came out in 1976 you just had to read it so you could name-drop the title into casual conversation. :)


5 posted on 03/11/2010 12:45:07 PM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes

It explains a whole lot of things.

Which should not surprise any legitimate thinker given that human psychological nature is the constant determinate of history.

That is what makes classic literature in general.

Johnny Suntrade

6 posted on 03/11/2010 12:48:57 PM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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...Jaynes largely recanted the book’s central thesis.

And never produced the sequel. Nonetheless, the book carries on.

7 posted on 03/11/2010 12:49:59 PM PST by decimon
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The age old concern. One Hump or Two!

Question of the day. "Which is the Bactrian?"

8 posted on 03/11/2010 1:05:19 PM PST by Young Werther (wtih)
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The Bactrian Camel, Camelus bactrianus, is a two-humped camel that lives in the rocky Gobi desert and the grasslands (steppes) of Asia; these habitats get both very hot and very cold. Bactrian camels have a life span of about 40 years.


9 posted on 03/11/2010 1:58:47 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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Well, Bicameral is obviously two humps.


10 posted on 03/11/2010 4:54:02 PM PST by gitmo
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Note: this topic is from 03/11/2010. Thanks decimon.
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind

11 posted on 01/04/2019 2:51:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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BTTT for a good book for a long winter’s night.


12 posted on 01/05/2019 8:48:05 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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13 posted on 03/08/2022 8:44:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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