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*Breaking News* FactCheck posts update to its "Born in the U.S.A." story on Aug 26th
FactCheck: Born in the U.S.A. ^ | 08/31/08 | Polarik

Posted on 08/31/2008 11:30:50 AM PDT by Polarik

I revisited the "Born in the U.S.A." story that FactCheck produced which shows digital photos of OBama's alleged genuine paper birth certificate, or COLB, taken in a number of angles.

I found something new: A note that the story had been "updated August 26."

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

According to the Director of Vital Records, with whom I spoke about 10 weeks ago, said that they replaced "NEGRO" with "BLACK," even if NEGRO was on the original birth certificate and the person requesting the COLB put down NEGRO on the application form. So, either this Kurt guy doesn't know what Vital Records do, or doesn't want to disclose this information, or FactCheck is misrepresenting what he said.

OHSM does not simply "accept what the parents self identify themselves to be."If the father (or the mother) said that the father's race was NEGRO, Vital Statistics would not list it as NEGRO, but BLACK. They report a person's current birth record in the context of the today's laws and practices.

Unfortunately, he declined to answer my specific question about "AFRICAN," because then he knew I was searching for answers to Obama's COLB, and said that he cannot give out personal information on someone's birth record.

Dozens of people were calling them daily and asking the same question, and maybe, Kurt was simply following departmental directives regarding BHO's COLB.

Now, it's the second part of Kurt's statement, as reported by FactCheck, that raised my eyebrows:

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised.

Was this OHSM's version of "Name, Rank, and Serial Number?" or FactCheck's imagination talking? Yes, we all know that the borders are generated each time a NOT-YET-CERTIFIED copy is printed along with everything else printed inside the borders. We also know that there has been only one form in use for almost seven years.

Now, why didn't Kurt simply say that the security borders were periodically changed since November 2001 until now? Why not confirm what FactCheck already knows (or should know?)

Kurt continues:

" He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

Trust me. "Reasonable" is not part of the vocabulary for the most screwed-up federal agency in America, namely USCIS, or United States Citizenship and Immigration Services. USCIS demands a whole list of documents to determine citizenship, of which proof of birth is but one of them.

Why is it that, when someone like you or me, applies for work in a federal agency who work with sensitive data, are required to have extensive and thorough background checks performed even before being considered to be qualified to work there. Do how is it that someone, like Obama, whose background has not subjected to the same and even more extensive levels of investigation, can become an applicant for the highest federal position in the Country?

It boogles the mind.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; colb; factcheck; obama

1 posted on 08/31/2008 11:30:50 AM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik; et al
Wow, I forgot to say, "What's up with FactCheck's comment that they did not learn anything about the paper the COLB is printed on?"

That strikes me as odd, seeing as how they allegedly had the same paper in their hot, little hands?

2 posted on 08/31/2008 11:34:22 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

>>>According to the Director of Vital Records, with whom I spoke about 10 weeks ago, said that they replaced “NEGRO” with “BLACK,” even if NEGRO was on the original birth certificate and the person requesting the COLB put down NEGRO on the application form. So, either this Kurt guy doesn’t know what Vital Records do, or doesn’t want to disclose this information, or FactCheck is misrepresenting what he said.

What Polarik says is true. There is an entire Federals Standards depart that has criteria for race.


3 posted on 08/31/2008 11:38:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Polarik
Wow, I forgot to say, "What's up with FactCheck's comment that they did not learn anything about the paper the COLB is printed on?"

That strikes me as odd, seeing as how they allegedly had the same paper in their hot, little hands?

A striking inconsistency by "FactCheck".

4 posted on 08/31/2008 11:54:32 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Polarik
Have you looked at http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kovach/080723?

To quote: That (Luo Tribe) is the ethnic group from which American presidential candidate Senator Barack Hussein Obama descends. The senator's father, a Muslim, gave his son names from the Arabic language. The first name Barack means "blessing." (Oddly, in the Hebrew language, the same word, barak, means "lightning." For the Bible significance, see Luke 10:18.) The senator's middle name means "handsome." But, the last name Obama does not come from Arabic. It comes from the Luo language.

It means "crooked."
,br> Really. Obama means "crooked," "zigzag," or "not in a straight line." So, the meaning of his entire name — as it would be understood by diplomats from Africa or the Arab world — is: "the blessing from the handsome one that is crooked."

So... is his name prophetic, or mere coincidence?


VERIFICATION of the name is at the website.
5 posted on 08/31/2008 11:57:55 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (McCain and Palin in 2008. Palin and Sessions in 2012. 2 Great Teams!)
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To: Calpernia
>>>According to the Director of Vital Records, with whom I spoke about 10 weeks ago, said that they replaced “NEGRO” with “BLACK,” even if NEGRO was on the original birth certificate and the person requesting the COLB put down NEGRO on the application form.

Maybe at some point, after a wave of PC hit, they issued a command to the database, something like this:

UPDATE BIRTHS SET RACE = "BLACK" WHERE RACE = "NEGRO"
go

The DB server would promptly respond that some large number of records were changed. But Bambi's would not have been among them.

6 posted on 08/31/2008 12:04:28 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: HighlyOpinionated
It means "crooked."
,br> Really. Obama means "crooked," "zigzag," or "not in a straight line." So, the meaning of his entire name — as it would be understood by diplomats from Africa or the Arab world — is: "the blessing from the handsome one that is crooked."

So... is his name prophetic, or mere coincidence?

It's hard to come up with a more appropriate name for a successful Chicago machine politician.

7 posted on 08/31/2008 12:09:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Which totally trumps this statement at FactCheck:

>>Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that “we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.” <<

Which was the point of what Polarik was saying in the statement I referenced in my post.


8 posted on 08/31/2008 12:18:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Polarik

So the islamic osama can be updated to “Black” from “Negro”. Does that mean that a person can be updated from “White” to European-American now?


9 posted on 08/31/2008 12:20:05 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: cynwoody

... and even if he is not muslim, pretend for a moment

.... and if he is luo, then by day they have tribal chiefs, and by night they have the night chief who does his chiefdom under the cover of darkness, voo-doo to which all subscribe.

..even the current christians in africa, regress to believing in voodoo

So , yea, we can have the black heart of voodoo and muslim contributing to the White House with most racist viewings from his american “church”


10 posted on 08/31/2008 12:26:10 PM PDT by himno hero
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Is Khalid al-Mansour the man behind Obama myth?
WorldNetDaily | August 28, 2008 | Jack Cashill
Posted on 08/30/2008 8:18:40 PM PDT by SatinDoll
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2071608/posts


11 posted on 08/31/2008 12:30:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
"the blessing from the handsome one that is crooked." So... is his name prophetic, or mere coincidence?

Quick, someone do a Bible Code on him.

12 posted on 08/31/2008 12:54:29 PM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: HighlyOpinionated

It means “crooked.”
,br> Really. Obama means “crooked,” “zigzag,” or “not in a straight line.” So, the meaning of his entire name — as it would be understood by diplomats from Africa or the Arab world — is: “the blessing from the handsome one that is crooked.”
***Very interesting, and a good enough place to bump this thread for the first time.


13 posted on 08/31/2008 1:39:54 PM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: lilylangtree
So the islamic osama can be updated to “Black” from “Negro”. Does that mean that a person can be updated from “White” to European-American now?

Sure,,,doidn't you know that Barack Obama got updated from mulatto to mutilated.

14 posted on 08/31/2008 8:43:53 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Spunky

Ping!


15 posted on 08/31/2008 9:25:13 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: VigilantAmerican

Ping! Here is a thread that will really interest you!


16 posted on 09/01/2008 9:58:46 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Polarik

Trusting Factcheck on important matters is like trusting three foxes and a coyote to bring your four chickens home from the butcher shop.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 12:27:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Trusting Factcheck on important matters is like trusting three foxes and a coyote to bring your four chickens home from the butcher shop.

We ought to call them, FakeCheck.

18 posted on 09/15/2008 3:49:16 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

obumpa


19 posted on 09/18/2008 2:23:01 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: Dajjal

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2086586/posts


20 posted on 09/20/2008 9:31:50 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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