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Thanks To Stubborn Republicans, America Lost
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Posted on 11/08/2006 8:34:44 AM PST by TheNewPatriot

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61 posted on 11/08/2006 9:31:11 AM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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To: TheNewPatriot

Being a Conservative minority is easier.

Conservative voters, being rolled by the MSM/DNC into thinking they had to punish their Conservative office holders.

But now we are supposed to wait for a hero to save us, barf.


62 posted on 11/08/2006 9:35:28 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Jeff Head
We are in one of those times when we have become "bewildered". God help us, for the sake of all those who hold fast to the founding principles this nation was based upon, and upon which she rests to this day, find our path once again.

Very nice words. Inspiring.

Hey! You could be a writer. Ever think about getting published?
</sarcasm>

63 posted on 11/08/2006 9:37:20 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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To: lesko
Wrong! The biggest winner in all of this is the MSM.


Exactly. They are the ones who carried water for the Dems and drilled their message home with the constant drumbeat of hatred and lies.
64 posted on 11/08/2006 9:39:42 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Mathemeticians are machines that turn coffee into theorems.)
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To: staytrue
"I think this is correct and that is why conservatism is finished for the forseeable future."

No, you mean you hope it is finished forever. It's not. LOL!

65 posted on 11/08/2006 9:43:22 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: JamesP81
Yep...and that is what is sooo frustrating about this debate. On one side you have the Freepers that say you must vote GOP regardless and if you want a change...do it in the primary. On the other side...the camp that says do it in the general election.

Neither is a good option. For one thing...the first camp...who I call the nose-holding voters...know GOOD AND WELL that that advice is BULL. It is harder to get rid of an incumbent during the primary than during the general election. They have to do something stupid like slug a capitol hill cop or something like that.

So...the advice "If you want to get rid of your RINO...do it in the primary...not the General" is pure unadulterated hogwash.

Of course the other option is the hardplace. You get a dim. The only upside to THAT is it is easier to unseat an incumbent in the general than the primary and HOPEFULLY you will have sent a lesson to the party that you won't accept anything less than excellence. At least with this option you have a CHANCE of getting something better.

With the first option...you have NO chance of getting them out unless they do something really stupid or illegal. So to me...holding your nose is not really an option.

I guess it really all boils down to how you want to play. Do you want to play checkers or chess? Sometimes you have to sacrifice the queen in order to get checkmate several moves later. That requires vision and thinking ahead...not just thinking for today.

66 posted on 11/08/2006 9:58:44 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: TheNewPatriot
Rush has it right. It's time for the Republican party to look at what it did wrong, namely straying away from conservatism on multiple issues.

It's impossible to win an election trying to scare voters into for voting for you and not offering a clear vision for the future.

Expanding government and spending at rates not seen since the Johnson administration, the President persistently pushing for amnesty for illegals and letting the Mark Foleys of the world in or to remain in the tent all contributed to this defeat.

It's past time for conservatives to step forward and take control of the GOP.

67 posted on 11/08/2006 10:02:21 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: mnehrling

How depressing. But laying blame at the feet of our own doesn't do a thing at a time like this. What's done is done.

Perhaps seeing two years of action of the aforementioned people will rattle the minds of the voters come '08.


68 posted on 11/08/2006 10:25:22 AM PST by Black Guy who is a Republican
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To: TheNewPatriot
raised our taxes, granted amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, ended the border fence, added more liberal judges to the Supreme Court

How is all that possible unless Bush allows all those things to happen?

69 posted on 11/08/2006 10:35:57 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Kerretarded
While I agree they needed a swift kick in the rump, I do not have enough economic equity saved up for what the Dems will legislate. So, the penalty for the Republicans not giving us a smaller government will lead to the Dems giving us an even BIGGER government. That makes so much sense.

I'm not too sure that the democrats WILL grow government faster....the Republican Congress has grown it faster than any since FDR's time.

70 posted on 11/08/2006 10:42:33 AM PST by theodorelogan
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To: Ol' Sparky

Bush has never shown any tendency to wage uncompromising warfare on his political enemies (nor did his father). That's why we're in this mess. Leakers operated with impunity. Sandy Burglar was allowed to save the Clintons. Bush's whole career has been as a get-along-with-people consensus builder. He's in favor of amnesty himself, so that's probably a done deal now.

That said, it's premature to blame the Republican base for not showing up. It's more likely that the fickle independent swing voters were masterfully manipulated by the Dems and their media auxiliaries. Conservatives better get some infiltration of the media going, or the war with collectivism and Islam is over.


71 posted on 11/08/2006 10:54:20 AM PST by hellbender
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To: TheNewPatriot

Unfortunately, its going to take another 9-11 (with thousands of deaths) to wake up all the idots who voted for the RATS...


72 posted on 11/08/2006 11:00:22 AM PST by SDS
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To: SDS

"Unfortunately, its going to take another 9-11 (with thousands of deaths) to wake up all the idots who voted for the RATS..."

Don't count on it. The MSM and Demonrats convinced a lot of people that 9-11 was Bush's fault! It won't matter if the terrorist who kills those thousands is found to have been financed by the Baathist Party, or Hamas, or Iranian Intelligence. It won't matter if it happens that the terrorist team were guests of Kerry and Ketchup Girl the night before their attack went down. The media will cover up the inconvenient facts. The truth doesn't count anymore. The media now effectively rules the country. That's the awful lesson of this election.


73 posted on 11/08/2006 11:10:07 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Jeff Head

There has been plenty of dumbassed decisions in American history, idiot Congressmen, lame Presidents, foolish judges yet we keep rolling alone.

There is really little the RATS can do without the President's approval. Should Ginsburg and Stevens go they don't have to be replaced quickly and recess appointments are possible. There will be no precipitous retreat from Iraq.

It is a beautiful day in Chicago and likely even more beautiful in your neck of the woods. God still reigns.


74 posted on 11/08/2006 11:15:29 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: hellbender
We are also in the mess because Bush alienated a good number of conservatives and libertarians by expanding government at rates not seen since LBJ and persistently pushing for amnesty for illegals. In a close election, that was devastating to Republican chances.

And, now, Bush had indicated in his press conference he'll cave to Democrats on issue after issue -- from minimum wage to embryonic stem cell research to throwing Rumsfield under a bus.

75 posted on 11/08/2006 11:16:57 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: staytrue

"Santorum supported the incumbent senator specter over challenger Toomey."

THAT'S where Santorum lost his conservative base...to the cost of the unborn babies - because we now have a pro-abort Congress and Senate too!

What is that saying: Cut off your nose to spite your face!

Unfortunately, it will be the unprotected unborn whose limbs will be cut off - through the agenda of those pro-aborts!


76 posted on 11/08/2006 11:48:17 AM PST by Anita1 ((In support of the troops, but opposed to the war means - you don't believe in what they are doing!))
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To: Wallace T.

I don't understand why suburbanites who make a good living and move to the 'burbs to avoid the inner city problems created by Democrats end up voting Democrat anyway. I'm from New Orleans and I can tell you that our suburbs(lower middle to upper income) are some of the most conservative in the country.

Can anyone shed some light on this?


77 posted on 11/08/2006 12:23:22 PM PST by Round 9
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To: staytrue
Im sure youd like that but its not going to happen.
78 posted on 11/08/2006 1:10:32 PM PST by mthom
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To: TheNewPatriot

Does anyone have the turnout numbers compared to 2004?


79 posted on 11/08/2006 1:14:54 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GO BUCKS)
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To: NorCalRepub

--Why do so many FReepers blame the MSM, the voters etc.. The blame lies withs with the Republican leadership and they should take responsibility--

Excellent point. Reagan got more done in his first term with a hostile House led by tip O'Neil - in the pre-Rush era - than the current GOP WH plus Congress over the past 6 years.

It's a given that the Enemedia are mostly Dems' propagandists, and it will take significant extra effort to properly expose them. In Europe nearly everyone knows, for example, that the London Telegraph is a conservative paper and the Guardian is a left-wing rag. There's no reason why similar points can't be made here.

P.R. goes a long way in advancing an agenda - remember how good Ari Fleischer was with the WH Press Corps(es)? Likewise Tony Snow. The disaster was the long intervening period, with hapless deer-in-the-headlights McClellan representing the leader of the Free World.

It was irresponsible for an administration to have such pathetic media relations at a time of war. That may improve but the damage is done.

Lynne Cheney showed the way by bashing CNN. That moment stood out like gold, in the black ashes of the 2006 campaign. Now there are no excuses for sitting back and taking the media's punches.

Our future as Conservatives depends on defining what we are and hammering it home day after day, or else the Enemedia will define us and demonize us as they see fit. So it begins.


80 posted on 11/08/2006 1:40:10 PM PST by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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