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Thanks To Stubborn Republicans, America Lost
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Posted on 11/08/2006 8:34:44 AM PST by TheNewPatriot

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To: middie
Reading comprehension problem there, middie? My post didn't offer any excuses for this past election, it merely predicted the inevitable outcome of the upcoming amensty -- many millions of new Democrat voters.
41 posted on 11/08/2006 9:02:21 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: svcw

Could you tell me more about that? I know he was pretty strong on immigration issues, though.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 9:02:36 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

Sorry forgot the ? to the other poster. He said it I was questioning him.


43 posted on 11/08/2006 9:03:53 AM PST by svcw
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To: ConservativeMind; TheNewPatriot

"Who's the stupid one who keeps bringing back an idiot like your RINO senator? "

I see we have one vote for "it is the rino's fault and the solution is to purge more rinos"


44 posted on 11/08/2006 9:03:58 AM PST by staytrue
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To: mnehrling
Santorum a RINO?

Santorum supported the incumbent senator specter over challenger Toomey. Therefore Santorum is a RINO.

45 posted on 11/08/2006 9:05:33 AM PST by staytrue
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To: TheNewPatriot

The RINO from PA is Specter, not Santorum.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 9:05:56 AM PST by Joann37
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To: mnehrling
Santorum a RINO?

Santorum supported the incumbent senator specter over challenger Toomey. Therefore Santorum is a RINO.

47 posted on 11/08/2006 9:06:22 AM PST by staytrue
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To: svcw

You mentioned Santorum was a RINO. Could you tell me more about that?


48 posted on 11/08/2006 9:07:06 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: RacerF150

This soldier especially. I was there at 0700 when the polls opened. And I made for damn sure my wife and both daughters voted as well.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 9:07:07 AM PST by stm (It's time to take our country back from the surrender monkeys.)
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To: theodorelogan
The party leaders need a wake up call to realize that they cannot take votes for granted...and when the party betrays it's principles (like small government) there will be hell to pay.

While I agree they needed a swift kick in the rump, I do not have enough economic equity saved up for what the Dems will legislate. So, the penalty for the Republicans not giving us a smaller government will lead to the Dems giving us an even BIGGER government. That makes so much sense.
50 posted on 11/08/2006 9:08:54 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down tonight.)
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To: middie

Mr. RINO speaks...


51 posted on 11/08/2006 9:09:19 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: TheNewPatriot

I am a conservative Republican and have been so for about 15 years, and I did go vote for Republicans, but I understand why lots of our side sat it out. We put the Republicans in power 12 years ago thinking they would have a revolution of sorts in Washington. They started out acting the part, but over the years, they are so much like Democrats you can hardly tell the difference. They generally act like we want them to "get along", when what we sent them to do was fight. The war is not lost, but this battle certainly is, and it's hard to say how long it will take before those of us with conservative ideas have a chance again. IF Republicans can again take control of the house and senate, I certainly hope that last night's defeat will spur them to do what we really wanted them to do. It's the will to fight that sustains a war. It's a defeatist attitude, of which I see much here, that loses the war.
The Republican defeat last night was not due to Iraq, but rather to ticked off Republicans (like myself) who are disgusted with Republican politician play-nice attitudes and the lack of courage and character to do what they were elected to do. I held my nose and voted yesterday. Not because Republicans are doing anything of substance, but because I hated the thought of Democrats back in control. I bet I'm not the only one.


52 posted on 11/08/2006 9:10:16 AM PST by 308win
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To: RWB Patriot

And 30 years later we're STILL dealing with the compounded consequences of Carter's administration. What will we be dealing with 30 years from now? *shudders*


53 posted on 11/08/2006 9:11:46 AM PST by whatexit
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To: The_Republican
Or Maybe America got what they wanted.

I think this is correct and that is why conservatism is finished for the forseeable future.

54 posted on 11/08/2006 9:11:57 AM PST by staytrue
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To: ConservativeMind

No, I did not mean he was a RINO. I just forgot the ? mark to the other poster.


55 posted on 11/08/2006 9:12:10 AM PST by svcw
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To: stm
This soldier especially. I was there at 0700 when the polls opened. And I made for damn sure my wife and both daughters voted as well.

I pormise to NEVER lose my will to do the right thing. NEVER!!!!!!!

56 posted on 11/08/2006 9:13:33 AM PST by Niteranger68 (We just failed our soldiers. I find it unacceptable. Do you?)
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To: TheNewPatriot
Maybe we lost because our party sold a bunch of us out. I heard it said best last night: We swept into power promising to drain the swamp and ended up deciding the whole thing made a really good hot tub!

There is enough blame to go around. People who didn't vote...yada yada yada. BUT...the reason people didn't vote is our idiot party leaders didn't motivate them to vote becuase of all their poor choices. They certainly didn't motivate the independants to break our way.

What we have here on FR is a ideological divide. One side says vote straight GOP even if they have stabbed you in the back over all the issues (or most) that you care about. If you want to get rid of RINO's...do it in the primary. The other side says...the best way to get rid of a RINO is to punish them by staying home or voting third party.

Honestly...I don't nkow which is best...all I know is both options stink and I hate the fact that my beloved GOP even makes me have to decide it. If I chose the first option....I am most likely going to end up with the RINO because it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of his/her sorry butt in the primary and everyone here knows it...and the very suggestion that we should do it that way is just plain stupid...it never works.

On the other hand...if I don't vote or go with a third party...I end up with a SFOLIB as the speaker.

The only thing I can say is at least with the latter option...I did lose my RINO and HOPEFULLY I can get a REAL republican the next time.

BUT...let's not kid ourselves...this butt kicking wasn't just about GOP staying home. It also wasn't just about Bush. It wasn't just about a scandle plagued GOP congress. It wasn't just about the media doing is darndest to paint us dark. It was about all of the above.

The GOP stayed home because for the last several years...our congresscritters have done nothing we asked of them.

Anyone who thinks a presidents 30 something approval rating isn't going to hurt their party in the midterms is psychotic.

The GOP was engauged in somethings on K street that the dem's never did...and some of them deserved to be brought down and thrown into jail.

We will always have to fight the media...but when you give them ammo box after ammo box...WHAT DO YOU FREAKIN EXPECT?!?

That's why we lost...all those factors. The GOP has nobody but themselves to blame...they squandered a great opportunity...and it is all a matter of philosophy on how you punish the party that let you down.

If the Republicans expect my vote in the future...they need to act like conservatives: financially...socially...and MORALLY!

Democrat Light won't do it anymore for me...and I would hope that none of you would take it anymore either. If we can't police our own...then we are no better than them.

57 posted on 11/08/2006 9:13:34 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Jeff Head
"but I hope and trust that there is good sense and virtue enough left to recover the right path. "

There may not be enough left.

58 posted on 11/08/2006 9:14:51 AM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: NELSON111

Well said.


59 posted on 11/08/2006 9:30:24 AM PST by skeeter
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To: NELSON111
I am most likely going to end up with the RINO because it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of his/her sorry butt in the primary and everyone here knows it.

This is why political parties are a bad thing, period. If parties weren't so codified into law, we could vote for a man without shifting so much power from one ideology to another. The Chafees could be voted out in such a system without throwing power to the Kennedys and Pelosis.

The Framers were right. Political parties are a bad thing.
60 posted on 11/08/2006 9:30:26 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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