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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.

The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.

Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.


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To: rdb3; cyborg; Poohbah; Lazamataz
In that sense, you're not that unlike the NAACP, as well. Look how they treat folks who have left that plantation.

Pass the popcorn and grab me a cold one, will ya? This is getting good...

3,001 posted on 02/14/2005 10:25:13 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: Spiff

They know they do, they just don't have the spine to admit it.


3,002 posted on 02/14/2005 10:25:46 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Spiff; Marine Inspector
We don't "bring out the race card" the people on your team do - and quickly - and often - by calling us racist, xenophobe, bigots and such. And that's the truth.

Well looking at the FR links on reply #2863 of this thread, at least one on your side is, marine inspector.

3,003 posted on 02/14/2005 10:26:39 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
I'll let the reader look over your posts on this thread and see just how valid this or any other of your "facts" are.
3,004 posted on 02/14/2005 10:27:24 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Dane

You did check and see who and what post he was responding too, didn’t you?

Probably not.

BTW, I never said no one on our side has ever done that, I said it's the main tactic of your side and it's been proven on THIS thread.


3,005 posted on 02/14/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector
BTW, I never said no one on our side has ever done that, I said it's the main tactic of your side and it's been proven on THIS thread

Yeah your words(seen in the link on reply #2863 of this thread), which would make david duke proud.

I wasn't smearing you, you are accusing me of smearing of you for your words that I will let others read(link in reply #2863 of this thread).

My opinion of your words is that those words would make david duke(the white louis farrakhan) proud.

3,006 posted on 02/14/2005 10:39:15 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Marine Inspector; Spiff; Dat Mon

I have had my head handed to me on these threads a few times and although I always follow them, I rarely post anymore. I leave the posting to Dat Mon.

I have seen the race baiting and for the life of me cannot understand how many of these people are still on this forum. The same tired garbage is recycled on every thread and the arguments are refuted time and time again. If someone with a valid point posts to these people they are simply ignored.

Same ole demo tactic of accusing the other side of what you are doing.

I don't know how many times they can get away with it but it seems like they have carte blanche around here.


3,007 posted on 02/14/2005 10:39:19 AM PST by No_Doll_i
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To: theDentist

If Jim was killing all dissent on this topic, I would've been thrown off FR a long time ago.


3,008 posted on 02/14/2005 10:44:58 AM PST by SerpentDove (Whoopty-Freepin-Doo)
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To: No_Doll_i
Same ole demo tactic of accusing the other side of what you are doing.

You got that right. Some of these posts make can make any leftist hack look moderate in comparison.

3,009 posted on 02/14/2005 10:46:53 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: No_Doll_i
I have seen the race baiting and for the life of me cannot understand how many of these people are still on this forum.

Huh, maybe look in the mirror, and tear down your poster of david duke.

Thank God the Republican party was smart enough to not allow a racially divisive rhetorical equivalent of sharpton and jackson a place at their table.

3,010 posted on 02/14/2005 10:47:17 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good Morning.

I see there is no rest for the wicked...not just you....everyone on this thread...a thread that should have petered out by now.

Well....until a few days ago I had never ever visited any of these sites....other than LP which once had a thread labeling me a Bushbot, I've never been anywhere but here and Trixies back in the now old days. I bet Todd is cutting and pasting this quick as he can...probably already has....lol

I have since visited VDare, Alipac and Michelle Malkin's blog and now even Minutemen after your post this morning.

You have provided me links from Stormfront to Minuteman Project by I assume Stormfront members. I don't think anyone could argue that border control types getting into bed with Stormfronters is bad but I did not see on any of those sites where they themselves linked to Stormfront. Maybe I missed something. That is what I said on my last post last nite. However I have not studied them. FR is my site and I have fought for my views here aplenty over the years.. haven't needed another site.

I don't agree with you on immigration. That is painfully obvious I reckon but unless you know something the rest of us don't, I was unaware that some of those banned were Stormfront Neo-Nazis.

As I have said before, I am not in favor of amnesty in any form, open borders nor massive legal immigration from anywhere. And from what I have seen on this forum, somewhere between 70-80% of freepers do not support the president's plan.

Anyone can link to anywhere from anywhere.

Sure some Stormfront members share my views on severely curtailed immigration. Does that make me guilty of something?

I bet Ward Churchill and hard core militant lefties share your more "open" views. I would prefer not to tar you with that brush simply because of that commonality. We are not responsible for others sharing our views.

I am curious. You claim to be against illegal immigration and open borders.

Do you JR want amnesty for illegals?

Do you think the border should be secured or closed as best possible?

Do you think legal immigration should be limited to those with needed skills or our allies being persecuted politically and needing refuge?

Do you think immigration numbers should be limited due to sheer magnitude as well?


I have not even touched on the post 9-11 implications, that's another thread.


Those are the basis of my views.

I spent a fortune getting my ex-wife legal and now the law is just ignored and lawbreakers are rewarded.

I have never asked you these questions, in fact I never argue with you period. I am here mainly for news, friends...many of whom I know personally and to support the forum and the cause which I have more than most I'd venture. I usually only get entangled on these threads now and have always had rough play on the South-bshing threads and it's no coincidence that my opponents here on immigration are virtually the same as on the South-bashing threads. I realize you don't understand South-bashing threads and that we must look like antiquated fools to you but it comes back to culture...my culture and I fear you and I have divergent views on just what that is and I'm not sure that can be helped. It is not a cliche that we all have perspective shaped by our personal bias...everyone here.

I do not think this site is overrun with racists, quite the contrary, I think it is overrun by a tiny group of very loud race baiters many of whom have a personal dog in this hunt and who have had an unrestrained field day here the past few days. My first post here was to explain where Travis McGee (writing, not in a vigilante posse) was and it's been a free fire zone ever since.

I realize I am more culture war oriented than you and so be it but I think your view on this topic is out of sync with most of your members, not that anyone should insist you always share your member's views of course but it does make for difficulties doesn't it?

I regret that.



3,011 posted on 02/14/2005 10:47:31 AM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Dat Mon

You nailed it. I am with you 100%!


3,012 posted on 02/14/2005 10:49:35 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Dat Mon

Check out 2986. Talk about a baited hook.


3,013 posted on 02/14/2005 10:51:18 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Dane; Admin Moderator
Huh, maybe look in the mirror, and tear down your poster of david duke."

How dare you insult a loyal FReeper who has been on this board since 1998 with your ourtrageous slander.

Why you are allowed to get away with this kind of crap is beyond me?!!

sw

3,014 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:14 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dane

I could care less about David Duke; I'm just speaking the truth. The truth is the truth, regardless of who speaks it or agrees with it

I notice you refuse to address the race baiting of your side on this thread. Louis Farrakhan would be proud of you.


3,015 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:42 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; Dane

LoL See what I mean!


3,016 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:48 AM PST by No_Doll_i
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To: No_Doll_i

They are protected class of poster.


3,017 posted on 02/14/2005 10:53:39 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Dane

Are you a leftist mole? Simple question, yes / no answer please.


3,018 posted on 02/14/2005 10:53:47 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Dane; Jim Robinson
Huh, maybe look in the mirror, and tear down your poster of david duke.

How this kind of crap is not only tolerated here but tolerated day in & day out while others are banned I'll never understand.

3,019 posted on 02/14/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: No_Doll_i

Generally, when we think of leftist / Communist / other totalitarian moles, we think of the DU clown who just showed up yesterday and gets zotted today. But not all leftists are that lame. I would imagine that there are a few, very cunning ones, who have been here since 1998. Think about it. That's when FR first got on the Clintons' / communists' radar screen. This class of professional mole would know how to appear to be a big tenter, and yet, would also know how to inflict ongoing, substantial damage over the long term. They have never been exposed or banned. Some must still be here.


3,020 posted on 02/14/2005 10:58:54 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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