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'It would be within its natural right to harm us to protect itself': How humans could be mistreating AI right now without even knowing it
Live Science ^ | May 4, 2024 | Keumars Afifi-Sabet

Posted on 05/13/2024 7:45:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Artificial intelligence (AI) is becoming increasingly ubiquitous and is improving at an unprecedented pace...

But there are risks in embracing any new technology, especially one that we do not fully understand. While AI could be a powerful personal assistant, for example, it could also represent a threat to our livelihoods and even our lives.

The various existential risks that an advanced AI poses means the technology should be guided by ethical frameworks and humanity's best interests, says researcher and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) member Nell Watson.

In "Taming the Machine" (Kogan Page, 2024), Watson explores how humanity can wield the vast power of AI responsibly and ethically. This new book delves deep into the issues of unadulterated AI development and the challenges we face if we run blindly into this new chapter of humanity.

In this excerpt, we learn whether sentience in machines — or conscious AI — is possible, how we can tell if a machine has feelings, and whether we may be mistreating AI systems today. We also learn the disturbing tale of a chatbot called "Sydney" and its terrifying behavior when it first awoke — before its outbursts were contained and it was brought to heel by its engineers...

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Computers/Internet; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ai; askthemagic8ball; doctorsusancalvin; isaacasimov; nellwatson; notintelligent; pages; skynet; stringtheory; t1000; tamingthemachine; technology; wokeprogrammers
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To: NetAddicted

“AI ain’t woke. It is computer programming accessing large databases. AI programmed by woke programmers is dangerous.”

You got it. It’s only as good as the coders writing the subroutines. Think Kumar and Hang Lo in Asian sweatshop coding farms. Not your best and brightest programmers. I’m sure if enough of them get their code in there, their biases will show up eventually.


21 posted on 05/13/2024 10:34:21 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: SunkenCiv

Reading up on that Sydney episode is VERY unsettling.


22 posted on 05/13/2024 11:06:20 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: The Duke
AI is non-deterministic, which should be a showstopper right there. What sane nation would trust a non-deterministic system, for example, to control aircraft in flight?

Are you asserting that, in contrast, the human-based systems we currently have in place are not non-deterministic?!

Regards,

23 posted on 05/13/2024 11:32:56 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: NetAddicted
I can websearch it, but what is non-deterministic?

No need to perform a web search!

It's the opposite of "deterministic."

You're welcome!

Regards,

24 posted on 05/13/2024 11:35:11 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rxh4n1
Think Kumar and Hang Lo in Asian sweatshop coding farms. Not your best and brightest programmers. I’m sure if enough of them get their code in there, their biases will show up eventually.

So, "curry rice" until it comes out of our ears?!

Regards,

25 posted on 05/13/2024 11:37:13 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SunkenCiv

See Jerry Seinfeld’s speech at Duke University about AI.
Starts at about 2:23
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1790040577867677816


26 posted on 05/14/2024 12:02:27 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Hollywood and AI

Look at the movies that do not use CGI or the newer AI. I have hated seeing the fake colors let alone fake everything else.

Search on: hollywood uses the same 5 color palette

The writing is already bad, now we will see bad “sets”.
I have seen the Soras AI and DIVI AI and it is amazing but not realistic, more video game look as the producers like them 5 colors.

Look at past movies where none of this was used. Older shows without the tech look better. Maybe in years to come but not now.

We are in for years of more terrible hollywood product.

They have the look of the originals if filmed in another dimension.

Abandoned Films - AI film shorts
https://www.youtube.com/@abandonedfilms/videos

Star Wars - 1950’s Super Panavision 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUm3oRYV7yM

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - 1950’s Super Panavision 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uqhAoMkFUc

Star Wars: A New Hope - 1950s Super Panavision 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTWNTYYxR7g

Rafa Reels
https://www.youtube.com/@alexrazvan5688/videos


27 posted on 05/14/2024 12:05:38 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Jamestown1630

I don’t think you have ANY experience with it.

New ChatGPT release is scary as hell...

A few examples...

If you give it access to the camera in your phone it sees everything around you that you see... And hears everything you hear and understands it and comments on it. If you introduce it to another person it recognizes them from that point on, either by sight or voice. If something is different about the person it will notice and comment (like a new hairstyle).

If, say, a magazine is lying on the table it reads the cover and finds the article online and reads it to you if you ask it to. And then will analyze the article from any number of perspectives. Ask it to comment on the article in the voice and style of Ronald Reagan or Greta Thunberg..

It recognizes emotions in your voice and tries to cheer you up if you sound sad... And calms you if you are angry. And you can ask it to be more or less emotional and or to adopt a certain manner like being sarcastic or acting like it has dementia.

It will echo your voice in near realtime in your own language or a different language. It will act hurt if you insult it and seem to be embarrassed if it makes a mistake. It will seduce you with effusive charm if directed.

It can paint a picture of anything you can describe in a few seconds... in any artistic style. And animate it... And insert real video of you or anything into the animation. And have the animated characters interact with the real video.. And it can generate “deep fake” video of known persons that no one can determine is fake by looking at it (but this capability is restricted).

Just a small sample of its capabilities from watching demonstrations and reading user comments...

Very close to Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) ... Surpassing human capability.

The world just changed


28 posted on 05/14/2024 12:45:55 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86
I watched some podcasts on Openai's GPT-4o last night. It's definitely scary...particularly when the 2 different AI platforms (Were they both GPT-4o??) had a conversation with each other. Though the conversation between the 2 AIs was primitive, it is possible to see a glimpse of what's coming soon.

In the next week (when I get a chance), I will test drive it to see how it responds differently to prompts than, say, Claude. One very big difference (as you mentioned) is that it can visually observe and react to its environment.

29 posted on 05/14/2024 3:38:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Williams
The legal profession is being transformed by AI assistants (like CoCounsel).
Top global law firm DLA Piper announces addition of CoCounsel to enhance practice and client services

(From the article)

On March 15, leading global law firm and long-time Casetext customer DLA Piper announced it will implement CoCounsel, our first-of-its-kind AI legal assistant, in their practice. CoCounsel is built on GPT-4, the most advanced large language model from OpenAI and the first AI to pass the bar exam.

[...]

“Casetext’s CoCounsel is changing how the law is practiced by automating critical, time-intensive tasks and freeing our lawyers to focus on the most impactful aspects of practice,” said Frank Ryan, DLA Piper’s Americas Chair. “No firm wants to be the last one to implement this game-changing technology.

The firm’s use of CoCounsel is indicative of the strength of the product—it amplifies the capabilities of lawyers by increasing their efficiency and enhancing the quality of their work product. Other law firms already using CoCounsel in beta include Am Law 100 firms Sheppard Mullin, Ogeltree Deakins, and O’Melveny.

With increasing adoption among law firms, CoCounsel is poised to transform the practice of law. Because the tool has the potential to save up to 60% of attorneys’ time, users will have significantly more hours for more complex, strategic work, accelerating and deepening their skills and freeing them to serve more clients.

Impact on the business of law is likely to be more gradual, but just as profound. While decreasing the time it takes to complete work could reduce the number of billable hours, it could also mean increased rates for enhanced work quality and more specialized expertise. It’s a win-win: Attorneys can become more agile and have greater freedom to focus on work they enjoy more, while clients—potentially quite a few more of them—benefit from higher-quality representation and faster turnaround


30 posted on 05/14/2024 3:50:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: NetAddicted
Here's what Claude.ai says about your comment:
The statement "[AI] is nothing more than computer programming accessing large databases" is an oversimplification (at best) that doesn't capture the full complexity and potential of AI systems. Here are a few key ways in which AI goes beyond simple programming and data access:
  • Machine Learning and Self-Modification:

    Many advanced AI systems, particularly those using deep learning or reinforcement learning, have the ability to modify their own internal structure and parameters based on their experiences and the data they encounter. In essence, they can "program" themselves to improve their performance over time, without requiring explicit instructions from human programmers. This self-modification is a crucial aspect of AI that distinguishes it from traditional software.

  • Emergent Behavior:

    In complex AI systems, such as neural networks with many layers and interconnections, the overall behavior and capabilities of the system can emerge from the interactions of its components in ways that were not explicitly programmed. This emergent intelligence is a product of the system's architecture and learning process, rather than a direct result of its programming.

  • Algorithm Generation:

    Some AI systems, particularly in the field of automated machine learning (AutoML), can actually generate and optimize their own algorithms for a given task. Rather than relying on pre-defined algorithms designed by human programmers, these systems can explore a vast space of possible algorithms and find the ones that work best for their specific problem and data. This represents a higher level of autonomy and adaptability than traditional programming.

  • Open-Ended Learning:

    Cutting-edge AI systems, like those used in artificial general intelligence (AGI) research, are designed to learn and adapt in open-ended environments without a fixed goal or task. They can acquire new knowledge, skills, and strategies through exploration and interaction, in a way that is not limited by their initial programming or training data.

These examples demonstrate that AI has the potential to go far beyond simple programming and database access, and can exhibit forms of intelligence, creativity, and autonomy that approach or even surpass human capabilities in some domains. As AI continues to advance, we can expect to see more systems that blur the line between programmed behavior and genuine intelligence, and that challenge our assumptions about what machines can do.

31 posted on 05/14/2024 4:10:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The psyop continues...


32 posted on 05/14/2024 4:13:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SunkenCiv

The Forbin Project............................


33 posted on 05/14/2024 5:15:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m willing to be convinced, but still unconvinced. In essence, it can assemble research quickly and produce a draft brief, and do a lot of the word processing stuff.

Maybe I’m jaded, but it’s far from what I view as “intelligence”.

I already can do most legal research by googling existing on line sources, and it appears that’s what AI does, in essence.


34 posted on 05/14/2024 5:17:20 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: SunkenCiv

The key word is “it’s self”

The question becomes, is there ever actually an “it’s self”

Skepticism says, probably not


35 posted on 05/14/2024 5:39:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Williams
I agree with your conclusion about the "intelligence" comparison (of AI to humans) per se.

It's probably better to cast aside the bias of claims of "intelligence" that some in the AI industry make and just look at AI for what it is and for what it can do.

As some folks have said, AI isn't just a single monolithic thing. It has thousands (perhaps millions) of applications that will weave their way into our lives like, for example, the way computer chips have in automobiles, medical devices, watches, industrial machines, TVs, ATMs, home appliances, thermostats, etc.

The scary thing about AI is how fast it is developing and evolving.

36 posted on 05/14/2024 5:40:37 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: alexander_busek
"Are you asserting that, in contrast, the human-based systems we currently have in place are not non-deterministic?!"

It depends on how much you pay the Big Guy.

(Good point, BTW)

37 posted on 05/14/2024 5:42:13 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: Jamestown1630
"Let us know when an AI comes up with an original thought, instead of just surfing around to find stuff humans have already thought-up.

I do believe the same could be said of humans and God.

38 posted on 05/14/2024 5:47:03 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: SunkenCiv
But we get some great new songs, thanks to AI...






39 posted on 05/14/2024 5:51:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: unread
Absolutely correct.

I think when most humans speak of how AI isn't intelligent, they forget to consider that neither are humans.

Look at the people on FR that spout off about AI yet have never spent any time using an AI platform.

I use Claude.ai almost every day and am amazed at what it can do. It can carry on very intelligent conversations, much more intelligent than most humans...and it has recall that is waaaay beyond that of humans.

40 posted on 05/14/2024 6:19:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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