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This cannot be said often enough.
it is individualism v collectivism
if the individual is primary
the country prospers
if the state is primary
the country suffers
The Vietnam of today is still communist, period. The mainland Chinese government of today is still communist, period. The differences is they both realized the communist method of running an economy simply did not work. They are now both a blend of communism, with it’s firm control over the people, and a capitalist economy. With this the peoples of both are generally happier than they were under communist totalitarian regimes such as the USSR and Mao’s China.
China’s goal is to take over our country, that has never changed. Vietnam IMO is much softer and see’s China as an enemy more so than the US. In a coming pacific war, I see the possibility of Vietnam actually being an ally of ours in a Chinese war.
The excerpt doesn’t actually say what became of communism in Vietnam. Young people “preferring” something in a poll means nothing. Are the communists still in charge, with just a veneer of capitalism, like in China?
I travel regularly to Vietnam for business
People there, certainly in the south anyway, are quite pro-American. 15 years ago in Saigon and environs, I would regularly have local men come up to me, telling me they served in such-and-such a place, and would recite names of American units and commanders. Many fewer now, probably because they are getting old and not “out and about” as much.
Vietnam quickly morphed into a “standard” authoritarian “oriental” regime. Its structure is communist, but its ideology is party control, social stability, nationalism and economic growth.
IMHO, Vietnam communism never went through an extreme “cultural revolution” phase that Russia and China did. Culture, religion and society were never put through the meat-grinder of Russia in the 1930s and China in the 1960s. Thus people were able to quickly return to “normal” lives once the Soviet Union fell.
Final note - I have never seen more openly devout Catholics/Christians than in South Vietnam. I visited a Catholic Church in Buonmethuot in the central highlands and saw what must have been 2000 people attending an ordinary Sunday mass. Parishoners filled the church and the crowed spilled out to the front lawn and courtyard.
“What became of communism in Vietnam?”
Let me ask the tag in the back of my shirt that says “Made in Vietnam”.
Vietnam, good retirement location?
The Vietnamese Communist Party is still in control.
I’m seeing more and more stuff “made in vietnam”
But the government is still one party dictatorship.
My very plain and routine unexciting coffee table in front of the living room couch was made in Vietnam. It’s nice. It wasn’t very expensive. It’s “strong-built.”
Never occurred to me while I was in Vietnam in 1968 that I’d even own such a thing.
“Fortunes of war”
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Just got back from Vietnam - they’ve taken to capitalism with a vengeance. They are definitely up and coming and they do like Americans.
Government Anti-Catholism didn’t go, that’s for sure.
Texas, is a state of mind for one example. A place that was nothing but sticks, stones, dry and inhospitable where all that lived there and still does stick, stink and sting. The Allen Brothers of Houston are a prime example of the power of promotion to have laid the foundations for a huge and usually prosperous city in a swamp.
The pathway to promotion of the state of mind that once was the United States has been very damaged if not destroyed. The destruction began in the home and the schools and the minds of our children. We have been invaded and nary a shot was fired. Just like Wild Bill killed the two little girls with their love in "Green Mile" we have been killed with abuse of our own rights and Constitution manipulated to favor actions we should have rejected. This would not have happened if we had been strong enough and numerous eough in our convictions to just say, "NO, not going to have that". When we tried our voices were drowned out by activist judges and others of their ilk. The loss of the moral, religious and rightly informed foundations of the nation that would roundly reject the freely expressed premises that have torn us down remained silent until the dirty deed has been done.
They killed 55,000 Americans so some different people could live in the palace and ride in the government limousines.
Screw them.
A way to explain this to the skulls of mush is to line them up against a wall or a trench during the school year and point rifles at them and tell them this is socialism and communism and that communists are those in a hurry when you hear BANG!
FTA: Many young Americans simply do not know enough about the history of socialism and capitalism.
It moved to Washington DC.