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Social media erupts in fierce debate over whether cruise ship was right to abandon late passengers: ‘They know the rules’
NY Post ^ | 04/03/2024 | Shireen Khalil, Benedict Brooke, News.com.au

Posted on 04/03/2024 9:13:16 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

A fiery debate has sparked after a cruise denied eight passengers to board the ship after they failed to make the 3 pm cut-off time.

The Norwegian Dawn ship left the tourists on an African island, some without their possessions after the private tour they were on ran late.

The group have now made their way by plane, ferry and car to Senegal, over 2,000 miles from São Tomé and Príncipe, where the Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) ship departed without them last Wednesday.

US couple Jill and Jay Campbell, who were among the abandoned eight cruisers have spent more than $7,000 in travel costs to get to the port in Senegal.

“We truly believe that although there’s a set of rules or policies that the ship follows, they follow those rules too rigidly,” Ms. Campbell told NBC’s the Today Show on Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: cruise; debate; passengers; ship; socialmedia
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To: coalminersson

It’s easier to understand that rules are rules. She complained that she knew the rules but decided the cruise ship was being too rigid. It’s also easy to understand that, in your case, the ship WILL wait if it is an excursion booked thru the cruise line. And it’s easy to understand that they make it abundantly clear that if you go rogue and find your own private tour, you are gambling that the ship will leave without you. Some people like to gamble..then complain when they lose.


61 posted on 04/03/2024 10:11:56 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: All

As former US Navy, I lived in terror of “Missing Movement” which had very serious consequences.

We were able to see men, people who we knew personally, who went to the brig and reduced in rate because of it.

I never, ever, Ever, EVER put myself in a position to miss movement.

And yes. We did often see sailors running like mad to get on the gangway before it was pulled away, because on an aircraft carrier, they are NOT going to put it back in place to let you on board.

I have no understanding or sympathy for the passengers. You know the rules.


62 posted on 04/03/2024 10:12:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Mister Da

IF the Rum was high enough proof, it would kill the gems anyway!

:)


63 posted on 04/03/2024 10:13:43 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Revel

“after the private tour they were on ran late. “

Does the ship advertise or recommend this private tour? If they do then they are liable.”

That happened to my wife and about 20 other passengers off the cost of Mexico.

We had gone whale watching via the cruise line while our ship supposedly stayed in the Mexican port. We had purchased our whale watching boat tickets on and from the cruise ship.

They apparently got a warning that any cruise ships in port were at potential terrorist danger. During our whale watching tour.

Our whale watching tour was cut short, and we boarded our cruise ship at sea from our whale watching boat.

We had a local lawyer from our area on board the whale watching boat.

After all of us were safely back on board our cruise ship, the lawyer and a couple of us notified the Captain that we would not be charged for the trip and would get a refund as we returned to the states. A refund not a discount on any future cruises.


64 posted on 04/03/2024 10:14:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((“Surrender often means wisely accommodating to what is beyond our control!” — Sylvia Boorstein.))
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To: ZinGirl
I agree I make a distinction between what the ship coordinates and finding an independent on shore. On St Barts and Montego Bay we hired a small van driver (the van was small not the driver) we could tell when the head back and they both were good and informative. I a obsessive about being on time or even early.

We went around the tip of south America on Holland America (Buenas Aires to Valparaiso). There were two long land tours but both ship operated., No problems. I have been carnival also. HA was far superior and no kids running up and down the hall at 3 AM

If you ever go to SA take time for Iguazu Falls, Spectacular with a huge Argentinian national park around them..

65 posted on 04/03/2024 10:20:34 AM PDT by coalminersson (since )
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To: ZinGirl

Good for you. We went on a cruise to Alaska last July and there’s nothing more nerve-wracking that they thought of missing the ship departure. It’s hard to put it out of your mind when you are ashore.

You made my wife laugh out loud!


66 posted on 04/03/2024 10:25:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: All

I should say-it is not that I am unsympathetic. I am. But actions have consequences.

That said, I have no doubt they will sue and be successful. We live in a world where large numbers of people think rules don’t apply to them.


67 posted on 04/03/2024 10:25:52 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
8 passengers vs. thousands of other passengers.

At first, I thought these passengers were entitled whiners but I might have to reconsider when I see the 8 of them were willing to share THEIR cruise ship with thousands of others. (/sarcasm)

68 posted on 04/03/2024 10:30:47 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: Political Junkie Too

The ship would then take both groups.

But they don’t guarantee they’ll wait for the private tour


69 posted on 04/03/2024 10:39:27 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: Fai Mao
Good answer.

-PJ

70 posted on 04/03/2024 10:40:12 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Board the ship excursion passengers, Leave the others at the dock.

Why? The ship has a duty to delay leaving port for the former, but not the latter.


71 posted on 04/03/2024 10:45:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: coalminersson
Good ideas! I posted earlier that I was in Bermuda in October. We had to be back on the ship by 1 PM and I was back on board at 11:30 AM… that’s just how I am. My friends came an hour later still laughing at me, but I don’t care. :)

I have a dear friend right now who is doing a world cruise on Holland America. He is right now in the Seychelles. He loves Holland America. Has done a couple of their world cruises already.

72 posted on 04/03/2024 10:49:30 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: Responsibility2nd
I disagree. The ship has a duty to board all ticketed passengers if they board any passengers.

The duty only extends to holding departure. As long as the ship hasn't departed and they are boarding some, they have a duty to board all of them.

-PJ

73 posted on 04/03/2024 10:51:51 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: bella1
If they had booked their tour with the cruise ship and the tour was running late, the ship would have waited. The rules are made clear. Also, the ships need to leave the ports by a certain time, no exceptions.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there is a limit to how long the ship will wait, because as you said the ship has departure deadlines. However, if the excursion is affiliated with the cruise line, arrangements will be made by the cruise line, at no cost, to get the passengers to the next port of call.

74 posted on 04/03/2024 10:55:48 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“We truly believe that although there’s a set of rules or policies that the ship follows, they follow those rules too rigidly,” Ms. Campbell told NBC’s the Today Show on Tuesday.

If that doesn't reek of entitlement, I don't know what does. In the military it's called missing movement and it's a court martial offense. Next time, be on time.

75 posted on 04/03/2024 11:02:35 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What race and gender where they?

I’ll have to know that before I can render a decision.


76 posted on 04/03/2024 11:04:26 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: ZinGirl
My friends made fun of me, but I don’t care. I was not going to be one of those, “oh the taxi got stuck in traffic. It wasn’t our fault!” Or “ we lost track of time at the restaurant”. Nope.

"I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locusts. It wasn't my fault! I swear to God!"

77 posted on 04/03/2024 11:05:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yeah. In the Army I was always late for Formation. My drills just blew it off. No big deal. *SMIRK*


78 posted on 04/03/2024 11:18:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

AIRPLANES LEAVE ON TIME-—WHY NOT CRUISE SHIPS????

“RULES ARE TOO RIGID???”


79 posted on 04/03/2024 11:21:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Reddy

Tug Boats have a schedule to follow, also.

THIS is group of STUPID PEOPLE.


80 posted on 04/03/2024 11:23:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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