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Social media erupts in fierce debate over whether cruise ship was right to abandon late passengers: ‘They know the rules’
NY Post ^ | 04/03/2024 | Shireen Khalil, Benedict Brooke, News.com.au

Posted on 04/03/2024 9:13:16 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

A fiery debate has sparked after a cruise denied eight passengers to board the ship after they failed to make the 3 pm cut-off time.

The Norwegian Dawn ship left the tourists on an African island, some without their possessions after the private tour they were on ran late.

The group have now made their way by plane, ferry and car to Senegal, over 2,000 miles from São Tomé and Príncipe, where the Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) ship departed without them last Wednesday.

US couple Jill and Jay Campbell, who were among the abandoned eight cruisers have spent more than $7,000 in travel costs to get to the port in Senegal.

“We truly believe that although there’s a set of rules or policies that the ship follows, they follow those rules too rigidly,” Ms. Campbell told NBC’s the Today Show on Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: cruise; debate; passengers; ship; socialmedia
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember cruising back in the 70s. Same. They tell you when the ship is leaving. If they say 4:00 they don’t mean 4:15. They would leave you then, they will leave you now. It’s not news.


41 posted on 04/03/2024 9:52:15 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Red Badger

They’re lucky the island was’t full of cannibals.


42 posted on 04/03/2024 9:53:18 AM PDT by Track9 (If you want to know about human nature, read a power tool user manual. )
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To: usurper
Well, God forbid, I read the article, lol, if it was a *private* tour, there are no guarantees. Typically when you book an excursion from the cruise ship, they will wait for you if delayed.

My husband’s new rule is from whatever movie “Apocalypse now” maybe..”Never get off the boat”. ;)

43 posted on 04/03/2024 9:54:10 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: Responsibility2nd

AWWWWW.... good old Hyacinth. ❤️


44 posted on 04/03/2024 9:54:22 AM PDT by ANKE69 ("Russians aren't people" proudly posted by MeganC)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, but I can criticize any decision made by a private company.


45 posted on 04/03/2024 9:56:03 AM PDT by Kenny500c ( )
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To: desertsolitaire
Makes sense, although I wonder if indeed large cruise ships are set up to meet small boats at sea, in moderate or better weather at lest?

Yes, they are. This was a port like many, where the cruise ship anchors off the coast and passengers are ferried ashore in small boats. It's very common, especially for smaller ports.

This ship was still anchored when they refused to take the late passengers aboard. The reason cruise ships are extremely strict with this policy is to ensure passengers take it seriously. If everyone ashore thought they could get away with pushing the deadline, the ship would be late leaving every port. While it seems harsh, fear is a good motivator, and this story will probably help motivate some future passenger to be more punctual.

46 posted on 04/03/2024 9:58:22 AM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Perhaps the late tourists would want to pay the penalties & fees for failing to vacate the dock on time.

When you book a tour with a private tour company, not only do you risk missing the boat, but you never know the quality of the tour.

We booked a private snorkeling tour in the Bahamas. On the boat trip out they served rum punch in plastic cups. It was good, the snorkeling was fun. On the way back to the ship, we noticed the deck hand taking used cups out of the trash for more rum punch. He didn’t wash them. We declined. Yuk!

You may pay more for a ship-sponsored excursion, but the cruise line guarantees the ship will be there when you return to the dock & they vouch for the quality of the tour company. When you are thousands of miles from home it is best to stick with things you know & trust.


47 posted on 04/03/2024 9:58:56 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If a plane is still on the tarmac, should latecomers force it to let them on?

I don't think you can compare the two.

First, the another plane will be along in an hour or so. You don't have to travel for a day or two to catch up with another plane.

Two, if the ticket counter tickets you and takes your bag, the gate should be notified to let you on. (They probably don't, but they should if the front-end of the process accepts you).

Third, what about late connections? I remember (long ago) when they would hold the departure of a major connecting flight if several inbounds are delayed by bad weather or gate congestion. So this is an exception to "the plane is still on the tarmac" but let "latecomers" on.

Fourth, the passengers are in their home country (mostly) with their wallets and purses, not stranded in a foreign country with no documents or local currency.

-PJ

48 posted on 04/03/2024 9:58:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: proxy_user

Private tours are never affiliated with the cruise lines. If they had booked their tour with the cruise ship and the tour was running late, the ship would have waited. The rules are made clear. Also, the ships need to leave the ports by a certain time, no exceptions.


49 posted on 04/03/2024 9:59:38 AM PDT by bella1 (Tytler's Cycle of Democracy)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Personally I like to see ones who think rules don’t apply to them find out...Yes. They do.

These are the people who the scripture is written for.

“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.


50 posted on 04/03/2024 10:01:07 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Kenny500c

Kenny500c wrote: “Seems as though the ship was still on the dock, silly not to let them board.”

Except the ship was anchored, not ‘docked’.


51 posted on 04/03/2024 10:01:51 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: usurper
If you have ever been on a cruise, you know that it is very easy to book private tours that have no affiliation with the cruise line. They are cheaper, hence the attraction, but you take a risk that all will go smoothly and return you to the port in time.
52 posted on 04/03/2024 10:02:37 AM PDT by bella1 (Tytler's Cycle of Democracy)
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To: Revel

Revel wrote: “Does the ship advertise or recommend this private tour? If they do then they are liable.”

The cruise line does not advertise or recommend ‘private tours’.


53 posted on 04/03/2024 10:03:03 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Fai Mao
A private tour is not affiliated with the cruise line. If they were on an official shore excursions the ship will wait. That is why ship board excursions are more expensive.

Here is a hypothetical; what should the ship do?

Both a ship's excursion and a private excursion are taking passengers to the same national monument (e.g., a Mayan ruin, Pompeii, etc.).

Both excursion transports are stuck in local traffic due to an unforeseen accident complicated by emergency vehicles and are delayed for 30 minutes while returning to the ship.

Both excursion transports arrive 30 minutes late to the ship at the same time.

Will the ship board only the ship-sponsored excursion passengers and deny the other passengers boarding, or will the ship board both sets of passengers?

-PJ

54 posted on 04/03/2024 10:03:51 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ZinGirl
Two random happenings. We docked at Cozumel. My wife and i took the first bus south to the Mayan ruins There were 3 buses. The tour was advertised ad coordinated on board the ship. The last bus broke down and the people were 45 minutes late. the ship (carnival() waited because they knew the people were not back and they were coordinating the tour.

Middle of the night Holland America captain comes on PA we're turning to go to Cuba a kid fell down the stairs by the pool and seriously injured, Cuba is the closet hospital. No problem. 1 hour later a US Navy chopper took the id and to a aircraft carrier with a surgeon on board.

No one I know complained in either case. It's easy to say leave them on a bum f—k island in the middle of the ocean when it's not your tour that's late.

55 posted on 04/03/2024 10:05:26 AM PDT by coalminersson (since )
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To: Kenny500c

“Seems as though the ship was still on the dock,”

Seems you didn’t read the article.


56 posted on 04/03/2024 10:06:50 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: coalminersson

PS from Cozumel you shuttle boat to Playa Del Carmen on the mainland.


57 posted on 04/03/2024 10:07:11 AM PDT by coalminersson (since )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Too bad...rules are rules. Ruin the trip for everyone else because they couldn’t be on time is not the way it’s done. I went on a tour one time and there was ONE guy that was always late getting back on the bus after a stop. So annoying.


58 posted on 04/03/2024 10:08:47 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: proxy_user

“Even if the cruise ship just recommended the tour, they might be liable”

The only tours the cruise companies recommend are those that they sell tickets for.


59 posted on 04/03/2024 10:09:55 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Revel

No


60 posted on 04/03/2024 10:10:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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