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Are Electric Vehicles About To Sweep The Country?
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 23 Feb, 2023 | Francis Menton

Posted on 02/24/2023 4:19:45 AM PST by MtnClimber

It seems like all the smart people have made up their minds that the future of automobiles belongs to electric vehicles. In August 2022, California, by regulation, adopted a ban on gasoline-powered cars by 2035; and in September 2022, New York promptly followed with its own ban, also by regulation, and also set for 2035. And at the federal level, in 2021 the Biden Administration ordered that all agencies move toward 100% procurement of electric vehicles, also by 2035. Meanwhile, by means of a thicket of regulations — from vehicle mileage standards to pollution caps and more — the administration overtly seeks to force manufacturers to convert their lineups to EVs as fast as possible.

So, are electric vehicles about to sweep the country and become the dominant form of transportation? I bet against it. This is just a specific instance of the general principle that it is always wise to bet against central planning of the economy. EVs may be a successful niche product for a small number of wealthy consumers, but the idea that they will fully replace gasoline powered cars in short order is the dream of central planners, who think they can implement their dream by coercion. Central planning never works, and won’t work this time either. The reason is that the would-be central planners don't know enough, and can’t ever know enough, to put together all the elements to make a fully functioning economic sector.

Mark Tapscott has an interesting piece today at PJ Media titled “Three Huge Reasons Why Electric Vehicles Will Never Dominate American Roads.” Tapscott’s reasons are all good ones, which I would summarize as (1) despite vast government subsidies and rebates, EVs are still far more expensive than gasoline-powered cars, (2) even with greatly increased sales, the existing gasoline-powered cars will not go away and will still be on the road and the dominant vehicles in 2035 and even 2050, and (3) the increased amounts of necessary minerals for the batteries, from lithium to nickel to cobalt, are never going to materialize. Key quote:

[All the] federal tax credits are available to help obscure the fact that EVs remain extremely costly for consumers and offer unproven maintenance and reliability records. No wonder that, despite the immense pressure being put upon consumers to buy EVs, they still only make up about seven percent of all new-vehicle purchases.

Let me generalize from that. The current automotive sector of the economy represents thousands of elements coming together via private markets to satisfy customer demand. Each of the elements falls into place because someone perceives an opportunity to make money by providing that element. As just one example, gas stations don’t exist because the government ordered them up, but because entrepreneurs perceived that they could make money by building the stations and buying the pumps and making gasoline available at that location at a price that would cover all costs and allow for a profit.

Contrast that to what is now supposed to happen for electric vehicles. The government is allegedly going to be paying for some half a million charging stations around the country. Maybe that’s happening, but I don’t notice any of them around where I live. And why does the government have to do this? If the demand were there, entrepreneurs would already be installing the stations. It turns out that the stations are quite expensive to construct (at least the “fast charging” variety), and then you can’t really mark up the electricity that has to be purchased from the local utility. So it has to be done with government subsidy.

And in the next step, the same thing happens with the charging stations that happens with every other government-ordered business: the stations break down, and since no one makes more money to be sure they keep running, they don’t get fixed. Among many, many articles on this subject, here is one from August 2022 at The Verge, headline “Electric vehicle owners are fed up with broken EV chargers and janky software.”

JD Power surveyed 11,554 electric vehicle and plug-in hybrid vehicle owners from January through June 2022 for its second annual Electric Vehicle Experience Public Charging Study. Despite big growth in the number of public EV chargers in the US, EV owners say the overall experience still sucks.

Well, check out the state of elevator operations or plumbing in the New York City Housing Authority projects. This is how socialism works.

Similarly, who has the incentive to be sure that there is sufficient electricity on the grid to recharge all the EVs when the owners want to charge them? In the gas car arena, oil companies make big money by finding and refining and delivering the product to the places where the customer wants to buy it. Over in the EV arena, the same jurisdictions like New York and California that presume to order up an all EV fleet also organize their grid on a central planning/regulated price model. Reliable fossil fuel power plants are ordered to be closed, and replaced with intermittent wind and solar generation. The all-knowing regulators then order that everything shall be electrified, and somewhere the little people are supposed to respond and make it happen, without any appropriate economic incentive. We shall see.

Inside EVs on January 18 reports that EVs had a big increase in sales and market share in the U.S. in 2022, going all the way to a 5.8% market share, after only a 3.1% share in 2021. The article somehow omits to mention how much of the sales increase was driven by the latest rounds of massive government subsidies. I have no doubt that the 5.8% can increase somewhat further over the next few years, particularly as government subsidies turn into a gusher. But ultimately a successful economic sector requires market incentives at all levels of the food chain. EVs don’t have that, and they almost certainly never will — except in the highly unlikely event that consumers suddenly decide that the advantages of EVs are so great that they are willing to pay double and more for a car. I’ll place a solid bet that market penetration of EVs will stall out at a low level well before 2035.


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1 posted on 02/24/2023 4:19:45 AM PST by MtnClimber
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I have no desire to get an EV. A combination of limited range, added weight and complete lack of respect (and trust) for the elitists pushing the green energy “revolution”.


2 posted on 02/24/2023 4:19:56 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Electric Vehicles About To Sweep The Country?

Well, if they do, at least they'd be somewhat useful.

Yes, lets outfit all EVs front bumpers with brooms, so that wherever they go, they are cleaning up and tidying our byways.

3 posted on 02/24/2023 4:21:54 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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NO. . . . . Next question?
4 posted on 02/24/2023 4:22:57 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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Of course they will sweep the country; nature abhors a vacuum 🙄


5 posted on 02/24/2023 4:24:34 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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I haven't seen any reports on how long it would take to develop the grid and power generation infrastructure needed to support EVs, but that would be a good indication of just how quickly or slowly EVs will take over.

That said, I'll bet the electric utilities are licking their chops over the prospects.

6 posted on 02/24/2023 4:25:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: MtnClimber

Why would I want to follow the dictates of a kakistocracy?


7 posted on 02/24/2023 4:25:25 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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I think there should be an investigation into why, even after so many states and even the federal government told the automobile manufactures to invent a better, cheaper battery they have not. Maybe a little time in a re-education camp would revive their priorities.
8 posted on 02/24/2023 4:25:45 AM PST by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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But this time the central planning is worldwide so it's gotta work...LOL.

Something about the first line, "It seems like all the smart people have made up their minds that the future of automobiles belongs to electric vehicles." reminds me of ol Pauline Kael's famous Nixon quote. Probably the same group of "smart people" involved.
9 posted on 02/24/2023 4:29:07 AM PST by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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I hope people buy millions of EVs and then realize the shortfalls in the driving experience.

No taking long road trips without hours at a charger that may or may not work at very high electric rates that result in the same cost/mile as ICE vehicles.

Not being able to tow more than 100 miles.

Large differences in range depending on how many people, cargo you have.

What will kill EVs is the user experience. I say, let people find out for themselves.


10 posted on 02/24/2023 4:29:35 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Make America Florida)
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To: MtnClimber

No. I have already purchased the last vehicle I can afford.


11 posted on 02/24/2023 4:29:57 AM PST by GingisK
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Good column. The central planning will not end well.


12 posted on 02/24/2023 4:32:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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So, are electric vehicles about to sweep the country and become the dominant form of transportation? I bet against it.

Agreed. I certainly won’t buy one. The number one reason is a bunch of commies are pushing it and not the market. Demand is supported by government incentives and tyrannical laws and regulations. I am not against EV technology. I’m simply against centralized planned and controlled economies. They fail. I will not be contributing to the failure of America.

If I need to buy a car before I die, it will be an old car, one that lacks electronics.

13 posted on 02/24/2023 4:34:58 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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EVs are good for commuter cars or for housewives doing errands around town as these cars can be plugged in at home each night and will do no more than maybe 100 miles a day.

They are not ready yet for extensive driving and longer trips.

14 posted on 02/24/2023 4:35:07 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,895,899 Truth | 87,656,930 Twitter)
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“It seems like all the smart people have made up their minds that the future of automobiles belongs to electric vehicles.”

No, they’re just people who the media has let speak into their microphones.


15 posted on 02/24/2023 4:37:20 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: MtnClimber

People that drive EVs get a torque rush and think they have discovered the meaning of life. You pay a heavy price in the loss of creature comfort, range, convenience and quick “recharge” time ( takes forever ) for that cool torque burst. EVs are boutique toys.


16 posted on 02/24/2023 4:37:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Wait until the various taxes associated with gasoline and diesel are shifted over the electricity.

You can think about that when you’re stuck in traffic, your EV doors won’t open, and your batteries start to explode in a chain reaction.


17 posted on 02/24/2023 4:38:03 AM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: GingisK
Me too. I bought a 2014 Altima a few years ago, will have it paid off in six months. It's a great car to drive, but I mostly use it for commuting 3 days a week. I'll turn 69 in a few months, hope to work 2-3 more years.

It's mostly my choice to work, thankfully. Good company, perfect for my "last rodeo".

18 posted on 02/24/2023 4:38:32 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

THhe ICE vs EV vs steam vehicle war was fought over 100 years ago. ICE won.


19 posted on 02/24/2023 4:38:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

Yes! Roomba

https://www.irobot.com/en_US/us-roomba.html

As they become more affordable.


20 posted on 02/24/2023 4:40:41 AM PST by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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