Posted on 06/28/2019 5:31:10 AM PDT by C19fan
The first trailer for Midway - this autumn's forthcoming World War II epic helmed by director Roland Emmerich [Independence Day, The Patriot, White House Down] - has been released, promising an explosive take on the Pacific battle of June 1942.
The movie - hailed as 'the next Pearl Harbor' - tells the story of the epic fight, which saw the Americans and Japanese clash once more.
Set six months after The Battle Of Pearl Harbor, the film is slated for a November 8 release, and boasts a stellar line-up of stars, including Mandy Moore, Nick Jonas, Luke Evans, Patrick Wilson, Woody Harrelson, Ed Skrein, Dennis Quaid and Aaron Eckhart.
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Well, in that period movie “Zulu”, the Zulu extras were paid off with watches and such, and more than one modern watch can be seen on the massed warriors.
Of course, Peter Sellers did it as part of the story in “The Party”.
We can say now that there were real men in Hollywood 70 or 80 years ago because so many of them did fight for their country.
But c'mon, Hollywood has always been about creating illusions and in those days they were able to do it so successfully because the studios controlled information.
“Had the Japs taken out the dry docks and oil storage at Pearl, the war may have had a different ending. For sure, there would have not been a battle of midway, at least not in 42 IMO.”
And they ignored the submarines. Not smart when you live on an island.
> the next Pearl Harbor
That movie was awful.
I saw the first Midway in the theaters. Had the vibrating chairs so you could feel it when the planes took off. Pretty cool!
-SB
Judging from the quote, I don't think they'd disagree.
Yep.
The Japanese did try to increase their Naval pilot training program.
It was too late.
They didn’t have enough fuel for proper training.
They probably should have had a reserve training program.
I think that the Japanese veneration of their Samurai hurt them badly in WWII.
I think the subplot of the original Midway was “ok”. It managed to tie in the Pearl Harbor movie Tora, Tora, Tora with the return of some of the Japanese cast, and it showed in a factual manner the mood of Americans at that time to the Japanese. But actually the subplot was about a father and son with tremendous unresolved issues fighting for a relationship while being forced to face war and the real threat of loss to America and future generations. Like I said “ok” subplot but maybe was over dramatized for the film.
My recollection was that it happened in San Diego, but the Internet agrees with you.
While training in San Diego, Tom had met Haruko Sakura (Christina Kokubo), a Nisei student at San Diego State University and the two intend to marry. Wanting to seek the approval of her parents, Haruko goes to see them in Hawai'i, where she and her parents are promptly rounded up by the FBI and interned.
There was a seen where a Nip Zero was strafing a Spruance Class DD. LOL!11
More than likely, they were scooped up by the Army or the Navy (in a non-pilot status) and were either already dead or needed where they were already ...
seen = scene LOL!
When I was in the Marines, we only wore dress uniforms for special occasions (such as Marine Corps ball) and for inspections. 99% of the time we wore desert cammies. When I was discharged from active duty, my dress uniform was still pretty much brand new and only worn a few times.
Yet because of Hollywood, civilians have the impression of military people going into battle with spit-shined shoes and pressed uniforms!
I remember that too. 1976, saw it in “Sensurround” - the CHAIRS in the movie theater shook from the planes’ engines on the carrier flight deck... and the screen was giant; not some rinky-dink squeezed-in “megaplex” theater.
Cast of current stars back then, too.
Heston was great in ANYTHING he played in.
“...Where are the real men in hollywierd? ...”
Most have all passed away.
I’ve not yet seen The Party. Nor even Lawrence of Arabia. But I understand Peter O’Toole wears a wristwatch that can be seen under his Arab robes as he rides across the desert in that one.
If the Japs had sent their Naval infantry invasion force to Hawaii instead of the PI, the war would have lasted a lot, lot longer.
“Had the Japs taken out the dry docks and oil storage at Pearl, the war may have had a different ending. For sure, there would have not been a battle of midway, at least not in 42 IMO.”
The war would’ve gone on longer, but the conclusion would’ve been the same. Once the US determined not to surrender or sue for peace terms, it was over but for the dying. Japan never possessed the wherewithal to invade CONUS and force terms.
In your scenario, if they could’ve kept us bottled up, it would’ve changed how some things went in the war. It might’ve prolonged the war in Europe. If the west coast were brought under siege and the shipyards became unusable, a lot of our east coast shipyards would’ve been diverted from transport ships for convoys to Europe to warships built with intent to retake the waters off the west coast. Japan would’ve have been idle; I’d wager there’d have been some fighting over the Panama Canal.
The conclusion of this scenario is probably a lot more bloody but still with a US victory. Upon completion of the Manhattan Project we’d have probably used nukes both in Europe and the Pacific, and more than two. We would’ve been lobbing them as quick as they came out of the factory. A lot of the South Pacific would’ve been glowing by the time it was over.
After sea and anchor detail is secured on come the greasy dirty uniforms....
“....Japanese veneration of their Samurai .....”
I’ve read that because of that veneration any military specialty that was not directly “warrior related” was treated as 2nd or 3rd class. These specialties would get the lowest performers if their manpower. So specialties like damage control & repair, etc. wouldn’t get the emphasis it did in the US & UK navies.
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