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‘Road Diet’ In Mar Vista [CA] Is Causing Driver Frustration, Dip In Business
cbs2la ^ | 03/09/2019 | Greg Mills

Posted on 03/10/2019 10:04:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Two years ago, the street was put on a “Road Diet” and six lanes turned into four — with bike lanes in either direction and parking.

“I think this is a very well intentioned project that has failed,” said bicyclist Steve Cohen.

“It’s causing a lot of peak-hour gridlock. It’s causing a lot of cut-through traffic in our neighborhoods,” says Mar Vista resident Serena Inyoue.

And while the lane was designed to make bicycle riding safer, some cyclists say the opposite is now true.

“There was a dangerous aspect before they fixed it and there’s a dangerous aspect after they fixed it,” Everett says.

He and other cyclists pointed out that when a driver wants to make a right turn, they must enter part of the bike lane to do so.

Business owners say there are less parking spots along the road and with less places to park, they have lost customers.

More than anything, the people who live here, ride here and own businesses here say they didn’t have a say on the “diet” and they say the city is not listening to them now either.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News
KEYWORDS: roaddiet
More than anything, the people who live here, ride here and own businesses here say they didn’t have a say on the “diet” and they say the city is not listening to them now either.

A vision of the future once "progressivism" rules humanity.

1 posted on 03/10/2019 10:04:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Not just California. City engineers and managers have a nationwide conspiracy to reduce the number of traffic lanes and to make lanes narrower.


2 posted on 03/10/2019 10:16:17 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: BenLurkin
Manifold-Destiny
are salvage titles bad

3 posted on 03/10/2019 10:20:31 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: BenLurkin

I think we should go the other way and Embrace this Great idea! The way I would Embrace this great idea would be to put an initiative on the City Ballot Mandating that ALL City Employee’s use Public Transportation or Bicycle routes for their Daily Commute to the respective workplace. The Law would require severe consequences, IMMEDIATE TERMINATION and LOSS of PENSION BENEFITS!!!


4 posted on 03/10/2019 10:22:21 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Zeneta

Wait... What?


5 posted on 03/10/2019 10:23:18 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: BenLurkin

A California success.


6 posted on 03/10/2019 10:26:28 AM PDT by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Great Bicycle Infrastructure Complex has made bike lanes everywhere their goal. They view is it some safe panacea that will get butts on bikes. They ignore the people who are already on bikes in an effort to draw more people in.

It doesn’t work. Most people don’t want to ride bikes, they would rather sit in traffic no matter how long that takes.

The real problem is education of all road users.

You have motorists who are upset that people on bikes are using the road. That mentality leads to this bike lane crap. Because bike lanes are more about motorist convenience and much less about cycling safety.

Then you have the cyclist who cant behave appropriately on the road. They hug the curb and then swerve out into traffic when presented with an obstacle.

People on bikes need to be visible, and deliberate. They should be operating in the lane and motorists should change lanes to pass them.

But of course there will be people who will ignore what I am saying and demand bikes get in a bike lane, and then your city will institute some bike lane bullcrap to make you happy.

I don’t support most bike lanes they are really only necessary in a few places. Also nice connected trails help when the only option is high speed roads.


7 posted on 03/10/2019 10:49:06 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (A conservative also conserves his resources.)
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To: jjotto
It's no conspiracy.

It's the way city planners think, nationwide and worldwide.

They are control freaks, plain and simple.

They can justify all their actions with opinion polls, ivory-tower "studies" and sky-is-falling Armageddon doomsday prophesies such as globull warning, peak oil and such.

And they don't pay any attention to the dissidents who will be paying--in time, inconvenience and tax money--for all the misconceived and misdirected "improvements" to urban life that are foisted on them.

Why should they, when most of the big-city (and even small-town in some areas of the country) politicians find themselves in full agreement with the APA's policy agenda.

Here is one small sample of their freaking thinking, and there are plenty more where this came from:

Planning for the Car-Free Generation

8 posted on 03/10/2019 10:51:16 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: BenLurkin

Some how pedaling my legs off to give my ass a ride isn’t good logic and getting sand blasted when a truck passes you isn’t good for you but you get a free sun burn.


9 posted on 03/10/2019 10:57:00 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: logician2u

I know what’ll fix it!

“Bike Pooling”.

Mandatory tandem bikes. 2 people, 1 bike space. Problem solved.

Where’s my study money?


10 posted on 03/10/2019 11:01:20 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: BenLurkin

Another case where liberal ideas do more harm than good.


11 posted on 03/10/2019 11:01:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: I want the USA back

The Law of Unintended Consequences always wins.


12 posted on 03/10/2019 11:14:27 AM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: BenLurkin
It sounds like nudging. Rather than limiting or forbidding driving which might cause a backlash or even the "wrong" election result, the government just makes it less pleasant so you drive less.
13 posted on 03/10/2019 11:16:50 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: BenLurkin

Road bikers have a death wish

Mountain biking is where it’s at

Big knobby tires Shox real brakes.

Look kids you’re allowed to ride your mountain bike on the road too !

but why would you ever want to ride around on 110 psi tires that are less than an inch wide. Makes no sense in 2019 riding around on 1970 s technology. ( 10 speed )

Every single road bike ride I’ve ever met has some horror story about getting hit by a car

My scary stories are all about falling off cliffs and stuff like that


14 posted on 03/10/2019 11:30:38 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: BenLurkin

Make sidewalks a minimum of 10 feet wide and make the bicyclist ride there, safer for everybody.


15 posted on 03/10/2019 12:06:35 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Truthoverpower

Can’t ride to work or the the corner grocery by riding over the mountain. Also, as a hiker, I hate mountain bikers. They won’t stay on their own trails, and are very dangerous for walkers.


16 posted on 03/10/2019 12:32:22 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jjotto
Heretic! Blasphemer! Violator of FreeRepublic’s Third Commandment!

“Thou shalt have no other demons before California”

17 posted on 03/10/2019 2:25:03 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: jjotto; SoCal Pubbie

But with over 40,000,000 in CA, making it the most gridlocked and populated state by far, does it make any sense for CA to take away lanes and roadways?

Doh!


18 posted on 03/10/2019 3:43:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jjotto

19 posted on 03/10/2019 3:53:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The road diets from the DEMOCRAT party members killed people in the last brush fire up northern California. They burned to death which matters not to the democrats.


20 posted on 03/10/2019 7:37:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (My sister said the only thing that did not was the clock. GE has spare parts)
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