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Lake Superior tragedy that left 4 dead spurs safety plea
AP ^ | 2 Sept

Posted on 09/03/2018 6:10:14 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

The family from Loyal, Wisconsin, set out from Madeline Island in an open-top tandem kayak Thursday for a 4-mile (6-kilometer) paddle across open water to Michigan Island. But their 13½-foot (4-meter) kayak capsized after the wind picked up. Eric Fryman, 39, and his three children, Kyra, 9, Annaliese, 5, and Jansen, 3, were found dead in the frigid water. Only his wife, the children’s mother, Cari Mews-Fryman, 29, survived. All of them wore life jackets. Coast Guard officials said hypothermia was probably a major factor in the deaths, especially of the children.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: kayak
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Tragic.

My daughter and son in law were reciently there and even went out at night, beautiful photos.

I'm now extra happy they went with a local guide, the first night was no go, too windy. Grandma stayed with the grandkids.

1 posted on 09/03/2018 6:10:14 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

5 people in a 13 1/2 foot boat?

And the boat is a kayak, which normally has small holes for a person to sit in. How did they all fit in?

Sounds like an ill-considered voyage. RIP.


2 posted on 09/03/2018 6:14:23 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A couple years ago, my daughter called and told me she and her roommate were planning a backpack trip to Manitou Island, near the tip of the Lower Peninsula.

I asked how they were getting to the island and she said they were going to take Grandma’s canoe.

“NO”

I told her that I’m a good canoer and there is no way I’d paddle none miles across open water without a chase boat.


3 posted on 09/03/2018 6:16:29 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Many two person kayaks are now open top. There’s enough room for one kid but not three


4 posted on 09/03/2018 6:17:50 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The only five-person kayak I could find was 25’


5 posted on 09/03/2018 6:23:42 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

The article said it was a “Tandem” kayak. That would mean there were holes for the two adults, and they somehow stuffed the kids in with them.


6 posted on 09/03/2018 6:26:20 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Lake Superior is COLD. Current water temp at Manitou Island is 61 degrees.

Throw a couple of kids in the drink without a wetsuit and they’ve got maybe a couple of hours before they die from hypothermia.


7 posted on 09/03/2018 6:27:47 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Have they never heard the Edmund Fitzgerald song?


8 posted on 09/03/2018 6:29:12 AM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“The article said it was a “Tandem” kayak. That would mean there were holes for the two adults, and they somehow stuffed the kids in with them.”

The article says it was on open-to kayak. That means there were no holes.


9 posted on 09/03/2018 6:33:12 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What is the “safety plea” in the headline? Nothing more than a teaser designed to get us to read the article.
The government is not responsible for people who do foolish things and put themselves in danger. Your family is very important to you. Don’t risk losing it by going out on a stupid kayak just because it has a funny name and will sound good in a facebook posting.


10 posted on 09/03/2018 6:36:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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To: TexasGator
The article says it was on open-to kayak. That means there were no holes.

Here's an example of a 13 foot open kayak. Essentially, a canoe. OK for going down a calm river in summer. Only an idiot would take one out into deep water far from shore.


11 posted on 09/03/2018 6:41:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It rubs the rainbow on it's skin or it gets the diversity again!")
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To: TexasGator

You are more right than I am.

It said “tandem open-top kayak”, whatever that is. It sounds like a small pointy canoe with very little freeboard.

An open top would make it very vulnerable to taking on water and swamping. Five people would make it too crowded to bail.

My wife and I once took two toddlers in a 14 canoe on a small pond, no waves, glass smooth water, and I thought the canoe was overloaded. With rough water, there is no way that would have worked.


12 posted on 09/03/2018 6:44:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What a shame people continue to be foolish at the tragic expense of children in their care.

I cringe when I see row upon row of these plastic toy boatlets lined up at stores everywhere it seems. I se no flotation in them. They are inherently unstable as well. Just silly dangerous toys.


13 posted on 09/03/2018 6:46:23 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

AP probably doesn’t have much knowledge. ‘Open top’ almost always means ‘sit on top’, and that’s how they are sold. Sit-on-tops are for calm water and casual use.

Looks like there were storms predicted around the area at the time too.


14 posted on 09/03/2018 6:50:41 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Those kids were not old enough for kayaking.


15 posted on 09/03/2018 6:53:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jjotto

Never knew that, thanks.


16 posted on 09/03/2018 6:55:49 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nhbob1

“Superior, they said, never gives up her dead.”


17 posted on 09/03/2018 6:57:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Sequoyah101

I would never go in one. They do like toys & it seems that in an emergency you could get stuck & not be able to get out.

I’ll take a larger stable boat with a motor. What an absolute tragedy for this family.


18 posted on 09/03/2018 6:59:06 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Superior, it's said, never gives up its dead. Even if just adults, that sounds like a risky trip in a craft that was not equal to the challenge. Even in good weather, with no wind or breakers. It sounds like the last-chance crafts that people in Cuba use to come to America because they have no choice, not an afternoon amusement.

I used to live in a town with heavy and frequent railroad traffic; freight and passenger. The annual fatality count was amazingly high, even with all of the safety equipment and flashing lights the government could think up. Same idea; some things you just don't mess with, RIP.

19 posted on 09/03/2018 7:00:10 AM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The only way society can redistribute intelligence is to dumb down the bright. You can’t honor people for their superior knowledge. You can’t do anything to restrict the opportunity of the imbecilic.

These open kayaks are very unstable, but they are also unsinkable, and trivial to right. I imagine the waves kicked up under a light breeze, as happens on lakes. The family was probably dumped and recovered several times before they became cold and exhausted. The one that survived — the mother — did so because she was the fattest.

If society doesn’t provide boundaries for the stupid, this sort of thing will happen.


20 posted on 09/03/2018 7:06:18 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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