Posted on 07/17/2018 7:01:19 AM PDT by MNDude
It seems as if everyone including so-called conservative voices are accepting the Russian indictments as valid. Why?
We know that Mueller's Witch Hunt investigation consist mostly of radically devoted Democrats who have all donated huge sums of money to the Democrat Party. Does he his investigation have one Republican, or even one independent?
After over a year, Mueller is finally indicted 12 Russians for hacking the Democrat server. They claim that the FBI nor anyone in the government was ever allowed to look at the Democrat server. So I am very curious to know how you can possibly have an ounce of evidence that 12 people on the other side of the world hacked a server that not a single person involved in their investigation has inspected.
As if there was not enough Optics of bias, after over 400 Days of providing Nothing in This Witch Hunt investigation, Mueller announces the indictments immediately before the Russian Summit, thus damaging the outcome.
All of the people who are indicted are in Russia, and we will never be shown any of the evidence. We basically just have to take corrupt Mueller's word for it all.
So usual nauseous self-proclaimed conservative voices who love to show the world how impartial they are by their ability to attack the president (Like Hugh Hewitt) are joining in with the leftist narrative.
Crowdstrike looked at it but the dems wouldn’t let the fbi look at it so the fbi took crowdstrike’s word for it.
“On March 20, 2017 during testimony before congress, James Comey stated “CrowdStrike, Mandiant, and ThreatConnect review[ed] the evidence of the hack and conclude[d] with high certainty that it was the work of APT 28 and APT 29 who are known to be Russian intelligence services.”[20] However, the FBI did not independently verify these findings because the DNC refused to give the FBI access to the server.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike#Russian_hacking_investigations
I don’t know much about those three companies but I’m thinking, say, $400,000,000.00 would be enough to pay them off to get the results you want.
To me, the biggest national security concern in the whole matter is that John Podesta -- who previously served as a senior advisor in the Clinton administration on matters of electronic privacy and telecommunications security -- was dumb enough to fall for a phishing scam that is usually targeted at octogenarians who barely even know how to turn on a computer.
This certainly IS a national security issue. The American people are wising up to the fact that our country has been run by morons for years ... and we can't have that, now can we?
Because the indictments doesn't claim that they hacked Hillary's private server. They charge that they hacked the DNC, DCCC, as well as Clinton's political campaign.
Gots to take The Donald down before he actually does shrink the worthless leach that is the federal gub mint.
The indictment was filed in the US District Court, DC. The handoff is basically from Mueller back to DOJ. The "National Security Division" specifier is cruft, basically meaning the criminal prosecution will be abandoned.
-- The whole narrative is filled with information from top to bottom that cannot -- and WILL NOT -- ever be verified. --
Guilt by FBI and DOJ insinuation and accusation. Same technique used by Congress. This is government. This is why the public should not trust or believe government. This is why the government is meant to have limited powers against its own public. This is why we have juries ... the government is essentially the enemy of the public, and it is up to the public to keep the government in check. The government will never keep itself in check.
“Consequently, there ‘s no reason why he could not have waited on the indictments until after the summit meeting. “
Actually there is. Putin himself yesterday in the Chis Wallace interview mentioned a 1999 treaty between the US and Russia which governs the two nations assisting each other when crimes have been committed. Apparently the courts in the US can file paperwork with the Russian government through the State Department asking for the assistance they need including extradition of nationals. It appears in his zeal to run to the press, Mr. Mueller has failed to file the paperwork requesting testimony from the Russian “suspects”. It certainly couldn’t be that Mueller is ignorant of the law or perhaps doesn’t really want to talk to the Russians.
Andrew McCarthy also identifies the indictment as garbage.
Mueller's Politicized Indictment of Twelve Russian Intelligence Officers
The main question is just how Mueller came by the twelve names. Do Russian hackers leave their names and addresses on whatever computer they break into?
Even the ultra-liberal The Nation magazine believes this hypothesis.
If we are to believe the forensic metadata analysis, then the Russian hacking theory (and resulting indictments) are unsupportable.
-PJ
Mueller is smoke-screening. Why issue indictments for 12 members of the Russian GRU that everyone knows the Russians will not honor? Reverse it. Would we honor Russian indictment of CIA staff? Of course not. If nothing else this was just meant cloud Trump’s meeting with Putin.
We found a note in the hacked server we don’t have - “Sergei was here.” We indicted the famous Russian spy Sergei Potemkin. Everyone know’s about Potemkin and his village. What’s your problem?
Why do you even believe that there were 12 GRU agents with those legal names much less that they hacked into anything using their legal names - like doesn't that violate the rules of SpyTradeCraft 1.0?
Mueller has something up his sleeve. I think he will drop it in ether Sept or Oct, just before the election. He is hoping that it will cause the Republicans to loose the senate and the house. Then impeachment of Trump. That is why he is dragging the investigation and making wild actuation’s that can not be proven. It stinks worse then a skunk!!
I’m pretty sure Mueller is one of Hitler’s Lost Boys and this is his way to ending WWII on his terms.
“The main question is just how Mueller came by the twelve names.”
The US spends billion$ annually on “intelligence” and “counterintelligence”. One part of that is almost certainly to keep a working model of who does what in Russian intel, based on open source info, informers and double agents, electronic intercepts, etc., plus truth and lies from “friendly” intel services. No doubt the DoJ’s National Security Division keeps a list of likely Russian intelligence officers by type of activity. Dollars to donuts, that is the source, not independent investigation. The indictment is likely based on such reasoning:
1) CrowdStrike says Russians maybe did the hacking, because they “found” the “signatures” of CozyBear and FancyBear. CS previously alleged that they discovered these signatures and believed they were Russian military intel hackers behind intrusion into Ukrainian howitzer fire-control systems leading to 80%+ losses. That claim is now mostly debunked, and the whole construct is highly suspect).
2) We have a nice working list of Russian intel officers who might labor in the electronic dirty tricks field. (Many of these names probably come from Ukrainian intel sources).
3) Assume Russians did it. Use list of Russian names we think do such things. Viola, indict-em Bob-O.
Would a Summit, Alabama Night Court Magistrate dismiss this case as a joke? Well, yes. That’s why it’s headed back to the counterintelligence vault whence it came.
In case you have not noticed, we have not seen onescintilla of evidence against the Russians, just indictments (indictments are only accusations). We will not see any of them brought to trial. Everything about this Trump-Russia collusion investigation is the same, over a year and absolutely no evidence and nobody is objecting to the waste.
“”Concorde Management responded to Mueller and he is now compelled to.produce discovery.””
That was ONE of the companies indicted earlier - not part of the Russian individuals from last week. Only one company sent an attorney to the court proceedings in the US and Mueller had to back off saying that company hadn’t been legally served.. They certainly didn’t expect ANYONE to show up to represent the Russian companies.
Don’t you wonder where these people (Mueller etal) go to wipe the egg off their face?
I took a break from writing my e-book and those 2 sets of indictments are in my reading list. For some reason I thought Concord was in the 2nd set.
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