Posted on 10/25/2017 7:01:41 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
Walter Cronkite 1969. Months after the truth of the Tet Offensive became apparent
Reaffirmed during the coverage of Watergate 1972
It was obvious the grey lady and alphabet news had an agenda that was anti-American
It started when Walter Cronkite decided to start reporting the Viet Nam war was lost. I was a kid listening to the news when he essentially said that. I thought, “Holy smoke, he just destroyed years of effort.”
When the people running newsrooms worried more about how costs were contained covering a story rather than getting the facts straight.
Once upon a time, the New York Times had a managing editor who could point out a calculus error to Einstein. Today’s NYT possesses no one of that caliber. Most likely the “journalists” work in the field because they hate math. Despise it. Never mind the exposure to how dead white males like Newton and Leibniz thought.
IMO, today’s “journalism” is about me, me, me. That’s when it’s not hyperventilating about the weather, or elevating drivel to the level of news. Facts and logical thought fall behind priorities like dumbing down articles and scripts, (”That’s too complicated” and “What do women want”) surfing Pintrest while at work, checking fantasy league results, and politicking with the boss to get a better shift.
We don’t really have any newspapers or TV news today. We have “news theater” posing as “objective journalism.” The internet has produced some good work, but at the expense of getting paid enough to make a living.
My $0.02.
Totally agree with you on Bork - that was the major turning point, the single biggest thing I can point to in my lifetime, when the media permanently and irrevocably forsook facts and reason for ideology and politics.
The anti-Trumpism of today might be even worse and stupider in magnitude, but it was the Bork thing that set us in this direction. The left has been borking Trump for two years now, but it’s not working...
When someone complains about political tone and divisiveness in American politics, dump a manure-load of blame on Ted Kennedy.
I had the great fortune (I guess?) of being physically present in the Senate gallery the day Ted Kennedy gave his famous “Bork’s America” speech... complete with giant posters. It was disgusting. All I could do not to yell at him.
I think it has always been prone to an agenda but the 1960’s seems to be when they quit pretending.
Post #5- AGREE
The press has always been the enemy! Always.
Actually before the internet 1990-1998 was worse than any 1998-2017
1933, Walter Duranty, New York Times
I think it became obvious to most people during the Vietnam War but I think the media was already making things up before that, supporting certain candidates, supporting liberal agenda. The media gave Kennedy movie star status during his campaign for President.
The media didn’t even try to really report on the Vietnam War. Stories have come out since that the reporters hung out in bars far from combat; listened to whoever would talk to them in the bar, then wrote what they pleased. All the while pretending to be in the middle of combat faithfully reporting what was happening. Very few were actually doing their job and I am sure their stories were changed to further the liberal agenda before those stories got to us.
It has been all about the liberal agenda in our media, schools, ETC. far longer than we realize.
It was Dan Rather for me too.
it happened in 1988 When Dan Rather produced "The Wall Within" a CBS documentary written to slander Vietnam veterans. He wrote the fake stories, hired fake actors to pretend to be combat vets and even scripted their lies. A network of veterans tried to bring his lies to light but all we had was telephones and handwritten letters. Very few people even had fax machines in 1988. If there had been an internet then, we might have been able to end his rotten hearted career long ago.
It opened my eyes and started me wondering how much of the news we saw before that was altered. When I was a kid my dad told me "Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see". I didn't understand him then, but I think his words ring true today.
You mean, when did the sheople realize they were being lied to? That’s a hard call. In the Garden of Eden?
Cronkite’s wound was deep and we are still losing many Nam vets every day because of it.
A great television show would be about FAKE news throughout history. I’d watch!
The TET offensive.
I can hear someone yelling “Liar” and the silent horror in reply. That was a great moment, eh?
To be properly done, it would have to be an extensive documentary series with Presidential authority declassifying millions of secret government records, and reported in dozens of manageable episodes.
I wonder who in Media or politics over the age of 17, would undertake such an endeavor, as certainly there would be an episode detailing their own involvement with the dissemination of Fake News and False Flag propaganda.
You know, I’ve been telling people that I was there for that speech for 30 years.... And, I’ve always believed it. After you posted that, I thought I’d go try to verify it.... I remember the date I was there, because it was just a few days after I’d been laid off, on October 19, 1987... The day of the market crash. You don’t forget days like that.
Turns out, Ted’s initial famous tirade was made on July 1, 1987.... On the day Bork was nominated. The final confirmation hearing (when Bork was rejected) was on October 23, 1987. So, I guess I was there for the final floor speeches prior to the vote. I did watch Teddy go through the same basic tirade.... This time, with his pre-printed posters.
I was tempted to yell “Liar”! :-)
LOL you would still be in jail?
Not for much longer.
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