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What year did journalism start to be "unrealiable"? What happened?
October 25, 2017 | Guava Cheese Puff

Posted on 10/25/2017 7:01:41 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff

What happened? When did journalism become "unrealiable" for some people? What the hell is going on? Why is it becoming irrelevant? CBS hired Jeff Glor for CBS Evening News, no one cares. What's going on?

https://pagesix.com/2017/10/25/cbs-evening-news-didnt-hire-a-big-star-because-the-network-is-frugal/

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sign-of-the-times-cbs-names-jeff-glor-evening-news-anchor-and-nobody-cares/


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KEYWORDS: fakenews; journalism; media; msm; vanity
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1 posted on 10/25/2017 7:01:41 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

For me it began with Dan Rather, and his persistance in trying to win an election, debunking George W.


2 posted on 10/25/2017 7:02:51 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The 2000 election with the hanging chad was the turning point in journalism imho.


3 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:00 PM PDT by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Who’s Jeff Glor? Should I know? Should I care?


4 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:13 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Maybe it was always unreliable and it’s just now that we have the means to point it out.


5 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:21 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Walter Cronkite.

Vietnam.


6 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:52 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

They’ve been hard Left for a very long time.

But in terms of just making stuff up, I think the George W Bush era (2006?) when the media agreed that the US economy was “the worst since Hoover” is the first time I just sat up and said, “That’s just a complete lie with no basis in fact”. And the media totally ran with it. Didn’t care.


7 posted on 10/25/2017 7:05:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

It started in ‘48, we didn’t catch on until Rather, thanks to Buckhead.


8 posted on 10/25/2017 7:05:45 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: rovenstinez

I knew they had a “bias” from about 1980.

I understood they were blatantly partisan in 1995, after the Republican revolution in 1994.

I expected big changes; the Republicans started to deliver them; then the establishment media came down on them like dump truck full of garbage.


9 posted on 10/25/2017 7:05:56 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Dates back at least as far as Cronkite.


10 posted on 10/25/2017 7:06:15 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

1932 when the NYT won the Pulitzer prize for Walter Duranty’s phony reports whitewashing Stalin’s Ukranian genocidem


11 posted on 10/25/2017 7:07:24 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
1968


12 posted on 10/25/2017 7:07:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Mid 1980s, when the two-paper markets ceased to be, the old owners kicked their buckets, and the 60s college commies crashed the party and started running the show. At least they used to have a pretense of truth. No more. It’s spittle for the leftist lickspittles now.


13 posted on 10/25/2017 7:08:19 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: marktwain

Started with Bush Sr. but Bill Clinton took advantage of it.


14 posted on 10/25/2017 7:09:07 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The networks make their money from advertising- pretty much ALL their money.
That advertising is mostly from international companies who are not interested in American views but world views.
The media’s news reflects that.

I’d say the turning point was halfway through Bush’s second term when the Dems used funding the Iraq war to get everything they wanted.
And the media covered up their blackmail.


15 posted on 10/25/2017 7:09:58 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: reasonisfaith

When Cronkite said that we had lost the Tet offensive. We had beaten them badly, a real thrashing. They had nothing left.


16 posted on 10/25/2017 7:10:17 PM PDT by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Walter Cronkite.

Vietnam.

Yep. That was exactly what I thought when I saw the question.


17 posted on 10/25/2017 7:10:38 PM PDT by boycott
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To: reasonisfaith

Definitely Cronkite but who won a pulitzer that was retracted by the NY Times for fake news? Walter Duranty. Remember Cronkite’s “death talley” during Viet Nam? Made you think soldiers were numbers, not humans, fathers, brothers, husbands, friends; absolutely shameful on the part of Cronkite.


18 posted on 10/25/2017 7:12:03 PM PDT by Fungi (What the hell is a fungus?)
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To: Maceman

That’s a good starting point.

Perhaps going back even further, Hearst’s incitement of the Spanish-American War.

More recently, their constant repetition of the twin lies of the ‘92 presidential campaign - “Worst economy in 50 years” and “The candidate’s character doesn’t matter”.


19 posted on 10/25/2017 7:12:19 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

A guess would be around 1890. There was some good journalism but also some yellow.

It got worse in the 1920s and then seemed to do a little better until the 60s.

Since then it has been about 80% crooked on subjects which are political or religious. By crooked, I mean they lie. Sometimes just outright lies and sometimes by misleading but technically true. A good example of the latter was an Andrea Mitchell story on assault rifles.

She may have outright lied too.


20 posted on 10/25/2017 7:13:17 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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