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Ohio State Fair disaster: Cause of ride malfunction revealed
Fox News ^ | August 06, 2017

Posted on 08/06/2017 1:34:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Paladin2

Most likely this was bad steel to begin with. I think it is often from Recycled steel. Or steel from China.
It is no different from how the steel in really old American cars would last so much longer than the steel in newer cars. The steel is already rotting from the inside out on the day it is made.


41 posted on 08/06/2017 2:47:22 PM PDT by Revel
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To: HBAR223

Rust on my old vehicles is a never ending battle. Anywhere I can eliminate it, I will.

I love Metal Rescue. That stuff works.

Another thing I’ve just tried is soda blasting on some really thin pieces I can’t get replacements for. A sandblaster would eat them alive.

I will have to get a cabinet if I do any more than token cleaning plus a real air compressor. My 14 year old Lowes rig just barely keeps up. The compressor pumps it’s heart out.

Someday I hope to have the capability to sandblast and powdercoat (on a small scale) for myself. I hate having to farm out something I could do for me.


42 posted on 08/06/2017 2:52:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Revel

There are a plethora of Steel Alloys, manufacturers, “heats” and component manufacturers using the raw material.

Plenty of details to examine.

It’s not so clear on how to inspect carney rides except to throw up one’s hands and add a useful life termination date for a given set of hardware.


43 posted on 08/06/2017 2:55:57 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: 2111USMC

Actually, an 8 ounce ball peen hammer can detect interior corrosion. You tap on the metal and if you get a hollow sound instead of a ping the metal is weakened.


45 posted on 08/06/2017 3:41:28 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: BenLurkin

Marginal wall thickness of the square structural tube combined with moisture and internal corrosion over the years. It happens to trailers and vehicles all the time. Toyota had a recall on their small pickup trucks for years due to frame rot and inadequate rustproofing. Some had a buy-back allowance. On others, they actually replaced the frame! My son had one that had a hole in the frame that you could actually put your fist through, and the frame member wasn’t very big.


46 posted on 08/06/2017 3:48:24 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: hanamizu

“That’s my wife’s attitude towards the rides at our local district fair. Look at the people running them—they likely assembled them too.”

My wife said she wanted to travel during retirement. I suggested we buy a small carnival then we could travel and make money. She just looked at me.


47 posted on 08/06/2017 3:52:04 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: wally_bert

I quit going a few years ago when I had to pay 12 bucks for a hotdog and a coke.


48 posted on 08/06/2017 3:53:08 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: aomagrat

If I go, my wife foots the bill. I refuse to enrich that outfit.


49 posted on 08/06/2017 3:59:55 PM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Paladin2
There are standards that must be met for thickness depending on grade, age, hours, intended use, yadda , yadda. Use an ultrasonic thickness gauge for non destructive testing of the non-corroded metal.


50 posted on 08/06/2017 4:05:26 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: BenLurkin
I get the impression that the corrosion happen inside the major support beam, probably it was corrosion that nobody could of seen unless they had cut the beam in half and looked. Kind of like all those gas station, motel, interstate support beams that hold up signs etc. Sure those support beams that hold up signs are bigger and has thicker metal, but it makes one wonder what if they are corroding inside those massive beams, and one wonders if maybe there was a big enough hole in the support beam of the ride to get water in it and speed up the erosion process.

This could have major implications on future inspection of fair rides, the making of newer fair rides and just about anything manufactured with hollow beams etc. I bet every time it rain this support beam got water inside it that would speed up the erosion process on bare metal that no body thought about getting painted, or it getting water inside the beam. This accident will probably change a lot of processes in the making of fair rides and upkeep of them, and add new things to inspect if they can even inspect the inside of a beam.

51 posted on 08/06/2017 4:05:38 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: mewzilla

A service bulletin from 2007 on THIS issue?

If they had knowledge of this bulletin and did nothing about it........well........thats unfortunate.


52 posted on 08/06/2017 4:10:08 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: yarddog

Paperwork was gun decked. People died.


53 posted on 08/06/2017 4:12:35 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: ReformedBeckite
Service bulletin in post #24 gives specific procedure on how non-destructive testing NDT was to be done one the "Afterburner".

"However, the ride is manufactured by KMG, a company based out of The Netherlands that manufactures amusement rides. Through KMG, the ride is called “The Afterburner”, and it’s had structural issues in the past. In 2007, KMG sent a letter to all Afterburner owners informing them that “On recent investigation on one of the Afterburner rides, it was discovered that structural fatigue cracking of the swing arm was developing on Afterburner rides supplied by KMG.”"


54 posted on 08/06/2017 4:17:04 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: BenLurkin

To be fair, the proper inspection of this metal would take very expensive equipment that is far beyond eyeballing, to say the least. I never go on the local,traveling fair type rides and I am still suspect of the big established parks.


55 posted on 08/06/2017 4:41:57 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Lol


56 posted on 08/06/2017 5:20:11 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: SamAdams76
Whenever I take an amusement park ride, I expect their is a chance I might die. Just like when I walk into the waves of an ocean or when I take a jetliner up into the sky.

You could die.

Life just isn't safe anymore.

57 posted on 08/06/2017 5:56:49 PM PDT by IncPen (Progressivism is in perpetual need of an enemy against which to refresh its outrage.)
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To: Paladin2

In the case of something like this ANY corrosion is excessive.

If you don’t know what the safety factor is then it is ZERO.

If the corrosion is pitting in nature and the safety factor for corrosion is not specified the safety factor is ZERO.


58 posted on 08/06/2017 5:57:24 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Yep, VERY problematic.

I’ve heard from a participant, principal engineer that the Hoover Dam had a safety factor of 10.

They wanted to be able to build more damns over the years....


59 posted on 08/06/2017 6:01:39 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: ReformedBeckite

hollow beams ?

there’s some news/insight.


60 posted on 08/06/2017 6:02:46 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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