Posted on 03/25/2017 7:28:19 PM PDT by tbw2
Today we are witnessing one of the most important events in political history. But you probably cant see it because the news is talking about healthcare, and how Ryan and Trump totally failed to get enough votes.
The real story is happening in parallel with the healthcare story, and thats what renders it invisible.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.dilbert.com ...
From what I have been reading under Obamacare the Secretary of Health and Human Services and in this case Tom Price has a lot of latitude. He will be taking full advantage of what is in the law and working with the individual states.
And remember, Hillary never got to first base with her health care plan...Gotta love Bubba for putting her in charge of that cr** plan. Showed how "not so smart" she is.
I’m sure the Left will be back onto its favorite meme next week.
But the bigger event to my eyes was the loss of power by Ryan.
I think Ryan told Trump “I got this, but you gotta fully back me up.”
And Trump fully backed him up. And then Ryan pulled his bill out from wherever it had secretly been written and tried to stampede the Republican House into voting for it, with scare tactics and artificial deadlines.
And Ryan failed, because he is not a good leader.
Is this blog actually on the list of sources that must be excerpted?
see_why_scott_adams_sees_ryancare_failure_as_as a big success for trump.
Delbert ^ | Scott Adams
Posted on 3/25/2017, 9:59:38 AM by angelrod
With the failure of the Ryan health care bill, the illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme. Look for the new meme to dominate the news, probably through the summer. By year end, you will see a second turn, from incompetent to Competent, but we dont like it.
In all seriousness, the Trump-is-Hitler illusion was the biggest problem in the country, and maybe the world. It was scaring people to the point of bad health. It made any kind of political conversation impossible. It turned neighbors and friends against each other in a way we have never before seen. It was inviting violence, political instability, and worse.
In my opinion, the Trump-is-Hitler hallucination was the biggest short-term problem facing the country. Congress just solved for it, albeit unintentionally. Watch the opposition news abandon the Trump-is-scary concept to get all over the incompetent theme.
Excerpted! Go to link below to see how Trump is no longer Hitler, he is now just incompetent.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3538000/posts
Or as former theater critic Frank Rich who takes a deep swipe at Trumps base, writing: While you cant blame our new president for loving the poorly educated who gave him that blank check....”
A repeal and firing of all the government jobs is a good start. Enabling the free market to have insurance across state lines is second. There should be no government health care except possibly for disabled folks.
Today we are witnessing one of the most important events in political history...
LOL
Eventually he does.
But not before an annoying series of teasers.
Scott Adams always has 1 finger in the air, echoing Captain Obvious...lol
Absolutely!
I was tempted to write a big piece, but much has been said, and Scott Adams knows Trump and his ability to control things better than anyone out there.
Let me add, the new meme is that Trump was “betrayed” by the Freedom Caucus (see today’s Glenn Thrush NYT fake news piece). This, of course, is designed to separate Trump from conservatives.
Won’t happen. I do think DT is angry that they couldn’t get a deal, but he wisely walked away and said “We don’t do a bill til you guys can come back in unison.” He put the whole onus on them-—and the DEMOCRATS.
Some of you have been way to cavalier to blame the GOP and forget that the ONLY reason we are here is because there is one party out there absolutely committed to not governing civilly-—just as they did in 1861. Fortunately, the better armed side then and now is . . . us.
Back to health care. There were numerous ways to do this, but in Hollywood you can have it “Good, fast, cheap, pick two.” The Republicans went for “fast” and in the process missed “good.” Therefore, by going reconciliation, the numbers had to all add up.
Please understand, there was NEVER going to be a “clean” repeal bill. No one was going to waste time on something that didn’t have a chance of passing the Senate. So working with an existing reconciliation bill-—which precluded many amendments such as insurance crossing state lines-—was the option they chose. If they had gone with a no-replace, pure repeal bill, 1) it never would have gotten out of the House in all likelihood, 2) certainly would never have gotten out of the senate. But if it somehow got us back to 2009 yet without any cushion for all the people stuck on the government teat and who (by design) had lost their coverage in the meantime, there would have been hell to pay. That was not an option.
Freepers have posted-—and I have forwarded to Team Trump-—several excellent executive orders Trump can begin issuing to make sure that the Dems feel the FULL wrath of Obamacare for a while. Many-—not most, but enough-—will soon get religion.
In the meantime, Trump wins the PR battle as Scott says, Ru Paul is the turd in the punchbowl, and now the pressure is on more than ever for him and the Senate-—NOT TRUMP-—to deliver on tax reform, quickly.
Ok there was never going to be full repeal but Ryancare didn’t bring down premiums. In fact, for two years premiums and deductibles would go up.
House Freedom Caucus said again and again they were protecting the President because they would all pay a price in the mid-terms with this bill. Others have said he dodged a bullet.
The President needs to listen to experienced, knowledgeable conservatives not just establishment leadership. I can’t imagine 2018 if the Dems got to shout we’d made Obamacare worse with higher premiums.
And why couldn’t Ryan put the interstate portability in Phase #1. So what if it wouldn’t pass the Senate, it would have got off the ground. Just sayin’ :-)
HFC isn’t totally innocent. Word was they wouldn’t give on much. Bannon was NOT happy with them. That said, this is “family” stuff, and after a few more months of Zerocare premiums, everyone will be begging for a new bill.
“HFC isnt totally innocent. Word was they wouldnt give on much.”
That is bullshit. The reaction of the freedom caucus was very tame. The proper reaction to a bill that has penalties to be paid to the insurance companies, and bailouts to the insurance companies, is to initiate proceedings to remove the speaker.
What do you think the odds are of Paul Ryno getting the boot?
I wasn’t certain, so I excerpted it.
There must be 100 options in creating legislation to kill O Care. Is Washington really this dull?
One, they could eliminate exemptions for all of Obama’s friendlies who are still off the hook.
Two, they could mandate O Care for Congress, Administration and Judicial branches and take away all exemptions.
Three, they could vote to kill the penalties (Roberts called them taxes) folded into O Care.
Four, they could allow competition from all quarters.
“there was NEVER going to be a clean repeal bill.”
You may want to send to the “Team Trump” that there is a large group of conservatives, many who voted for “Team Trump”, that view the federal government completely out of line when they unconstitutionally and illegally force us to buy a product!
Unconstitutionally and illegally forcing us to buy a product is tyranny!
Start with an insurance product, force us to buy it. Then the next administration, will force us to buy some other product. And then another product and then another!
STOP IT!
We know what is going on, and we don’t like it!
Face it Trump has realized the GOP have no intention of repealing Obamacare. When Ocare finally collapses in a year or two the Dem and the GOP ie the uniparty will get together and pass single payer. That’s what the “big beautiful deal” is that Trump alluded to yesterday.
IMO the Republicans have become convinced and it may even be true that most Americans want national insurance so why not just give it to them. It won’t be called that of course. The politicians will give it a real hip name and both parties will sell it to their base. So get ready for single payer because that’s what’s coming.
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