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To: tbw2; 1_Rain_Drop; 3D-JOY; Abbeville Conservative; Abby4116; acoulterfan; Airwinger; ...

I was tempted to write a big piece, but much has been said, and Scott Adams knows Trump and his ability to control things better than anyone out there.

Let me add, the new meme is that Trump was “betrayed” by the Freedom Caucus (see today’s Glenn Thrush NYT fake news piece). This, of course, is designed to separate Trump from conservatives.

Won’t happen. I do think DT is angry that they couldn’t get a deal, but he wisely walked away and said “We don’t do a bill til you guys can come back in unison.” He put the whole onus on them-—and the DEMOCRATS.

Some of you have been way to cavalier to blame the GOP and forget that the ONLY reason we are here is because there is one party out there absolutely committed to not governing civilly-—just as they did in 1861. Fortunately, the better armed side then and now is . . . us.

Back to health care. There were numerous ways to do this, but in Hollywood you can have it “Good, fast, cheap, pick two.” The Republicans went for “fast” and in the process missed “good.” Therefore, by going reconciliation, the numbers had to all add up.

Please understand, there was NEVER going to be a “clean” repeal bill. No one was going to waste time on something that didn’t have a chance of passing the Senate. So working with an existing reconciliation bill-—which precluded many amendments such as insurance crossing state lines-—was the option they chose. If they had gone with a no-replace, pure repeal bill, 1) it never would have gotten out of the House in all likelihood, 2) certainly would never have gotten out of the senate. But if it somehow got us back to 2009 yet without any cushion for all the people stuck on the government teat and who (by design) had lost their coverage in the meantime, there would have been hell to pay. That was not an option.

Freepers have posted-—and I have forwarded to Team Trump-—several excellent executive orders Trump can begin issuing to make sure that the Dems feel the FULL wrath of Obamacare for a while. Many-—not most, but enough-—will soon get religion.

In the meantime, Trump wins the PR battle as Scott says, Ru Paul is the turd in the punchbowl, and now the pressure is on more than ever for him and the Senate-—NOT TRUMP-—to deliver on tax reform, quickly.


12 posted on 03/25/2017 8:06:37 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Ok there was never going to be full repeal but Ryancare didn’t bring down premiums. In fact, for two years premiums and deductibles would go up.

House Freedom Caucus said again and again they were protecting the President because they would all pay a price in the mid-terms with this bill. Others have said he dodged a bullet.

The President needs to listen to experienced, knowledgeable conservatives not just establishment leadership. I can’t imagine 2018 if the Dems got to shout we’d made Obamacare worse with higher premiums.

And why couldn’t Ryan put the interstate portability in Phase #1. So what if it wouldn’t pass the Senate, it would have got off the ground. Just sayin’ :-)


13 posted on 03/25/2017 8:12:13 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: LS

What do you think the odds are of Paul Ryno getting the boot?


16 posted on 03/25/2017 8:37:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: LS

“there was NEVER going to be a “clean” repeal bill.”

You may want to send to the “Team Trump” that there is a large group of conservatives, many who voted for “Team Trump”, that view the federal government completely out of line when they unconstitutionally and illegally force us to buy a product!

Unconstitutionally and illegally forcing us to buy a product is tyranny!

Start with an insurance product, force us to buy it. Then the next administration, will force us to buy some other product. And then another product and then another!

STOP IT!

We know what is going on, and we don’t like it!


19 posted on 03/25/2017 9:59:48 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: LS

Face it Trump has realized the GOP have no intention of repealing Obamacare. When Ocare finally collapses in a year or two the Dem and the GOP ie the uniparty will get together and pass single payer. That’s what the “big beautiful deal” is that Trump alluded to yesterday.

IMO the Republicans have become convinced and it may even be true that most Americans want national insurance so why not just give it to them. It won’t be called that of course. The politicians will give it a real hip name and both parties will sell it to their base. So get ready for single payer because that’s what’s coming.


20 posted on 03/25/2017 10:16:30 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LS

Just saw this!
THANK YOU!!!!!


25 posted on 03/26/2017 4:53:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: WhatNot

Here. Educate yourself. Especially 13 and 14.


26 posted on 03/26/2017 5:03:20 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that rmemoveth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: LS

Thanks as usual for your common sense.

Check my new tagline.


33 posted on 03/26/2017 7:17:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme on 3/24/2017)
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To: LS
The instant Ryan closed out the Senate in preparation for his secret bill, it was going nowhere. This is all on Paul Ryan's head, I do not believe he ever intended to change a darn thing about how government funds healthcare.

End taxpayers funding ‘faith based charities’... We spend billions on illegals healthcare and education... largely funneled through a few ‘faith based charities’.

38 posted on 03/26/2017 8:34:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: LS

After much reflection, I think Trump is sitting pretty good here.

The Freedom Caucus should have supported him, but if it is not in the cards . . . well . . . they are now in an exposed position going forward.

Even with the Bill’s deep flaws, I think they should have supported our President. Of course I like their approach far better than Ryan-care; but, they need to recognize they represent a minority position that we LOVE—but which could NEVER have beaten Hillary and even had the great coattails to save the Senate.

Trump is leading nationally. They need to consider backing his plays from now on.


43 posted on 03/28/2017 3:59:32 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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