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If Donald Trump gave the Gettysburg Address
Original ^ | 02/19/2017 | IronJack

Posted on 02/19/2017 7:29:05 AM PST by IronJack

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To: Mustangman
“Really...if you think about it... the Civil war started with the Missouri Compromise in 1825 . . .”

Really . . . if you think about it . . . the “Civil War” started when the slave states wrote slavery into the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.

And why did the slave states want slavery in the DOI and the Constitution. Because they thought it was in their best interest.

And who were the slave states? New York. New Jersey. New Hampshire. Massachusetts. Connecticut. Rhode Island. Pennsylvania. Delaware. Maryland.

Oh yes, don't forget Virginia. North and South Carolina. And Georgia. They were slave states too.

Only 13 of the original 13 states voted to put slavery into the DOI and the U.S. Constitution. And only 9 of the 13 slave states were in the north . . . if you think about it.

61 posted on 02/19/2017 2:58:43 PM PST by jeffersondem
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62 posted on 02/19/2017 6:02:46 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: jeffersondem

You’ve delivered a lot of sarcasm in your answer (which only serves to weakens your argument) but you have offered very little in the way of intellectual discourse.

Slavery was a dicey subject to be sure...which I think is your point...but a majority of people had about enough of it starting in about 1825. I said a majority. There was still plenty who supported it.

The potential introduction of a new state (such as Missouri) into the union represented the first opportunity the abolitionist had to gain leverage over those who supported slavery. This truly began the political struggle that ultimately led to the Civil War.


63 posted on 02/19/2017 7:49:48 PM PST by Mustangman
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To: Mustangman
“You’ve delivered a lot of sarcasm in your answer . . .”

That is an interesting comment. Can you be more specific?

64 posted on 02/19/2017 8:01:47 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

That’s where you want to start?.....with the sarcasm angle. Dude, go back to whatever you were doing. You’re not worth my time.


65 posted on 02/19/2017 8:03:47 PM PST by Mustangman
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“That’s where you want to start?.....with the sarcasm angle. Dude, go back to whatever you were doing. You’re not worth my time.”

Sarcasm was the first thing you mentioned in your previous post (about my post), so I asked you about it.

I didn’t think there would be anything wrong in asking a question.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to put you on the spot.


66 posted on 02/19/2017 8:15:48 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: lonevoice

Thanks for all the kind comments. I really get a kick out of listening to Trump speak.


67 posted on 02/20/2017 5:30:04 AM PST by IronJack
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To: aquila48
You believe the liberal media. so states don't have the right to secede? Lincoln went to war because of secession later he went with the slavery issue to justify his burning of the Souith
68 posted on 03/03/2017 12:45:12 PM PST by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)
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“You believe the liberal media. so states don’t have the right to secede?”

I have no idea what “rights” are. The only thing we have is our own abilities to get what we want by whatever means at our disposal. The south tried but they fell short.

Obviously the south wasn’t fighting for freedom unless you believe keeping slaves is fighting for freedom.

What the South fought for was for self determination for the people then in power.

By the way I would not have been against them ceceding. I think slavery would have ended in the south without all the bloodshed. Sort of like the way apartheid ended in SA.


69 posted on 03/03/2017 3:45:38 PM PST by aquila48
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We in the South have our own civilization based in freedom. It is not Gone with The Wind . I demand secession and we had the right to self determination and we still do . civil war 1 was about the South's cessation . The “slavery” issue Lincoln only brought out later to cover his war crimes burning our cities and women and children. If Stonewall Jackson hadn't lost his life accidentally the North would be only a memory.
70 posted on 03/08/2017 6:05:52 AM PST by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)
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To: IronJack

Brilliant. Reposting on Facebook.

Unless you tell me to delete it.

And even then, SUE ME, BITCH! ;)


71 posted on 03/08/2017 6:08:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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