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1 posted on 01/18/2017 9:30:00 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Slings and Arrows; Joe 6-pack; Salamander

Could I please get a kitty, doggie and snake ping out on this one?

This makes my blood boil that people would do this to animals. I suddenly lost all empathy for junkies.


2 posted on 01/18/2017 9:31:33 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

became available only as a prescription at pharmacies...

I had to it by prescription 11 years ago.

And the ironic part is tramadol is VERY weak and won’t touch a 2 or 300 mg roxy addiction.

My cat is sleeping on me right now.

Best buddy for many years while I was sick.

I’d put someone who hurt him in the hospital for a long, long time.


3 posted on 01/18/2017 9:36:45 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Morgana

Spread the word that if they fake enough data, the vet will put them to sleep also, and that is a Really, Really Great high.

It should work.

For evidence, see: Michael Jackson, et.al.


4 posted on 01/18/2017 9:37:11 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (LOTS of /s)
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To: Morgana
Vets should put down the owner if they can prove it...then cremate them on premises and charge the drug user's relatives to pay for his pet ashes:


5 posted on 01/18/2017 9:37:34 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Morgana

I have a 15 year old border collie/chow mix that needs the NSAID deramaxx and tramadol every day. Without these drugs, I would have to euthanize her because she wouldn’t be able to walk. I sure hope drug addicts don’t ruin things for everybody as they are known to do.


6 posted on 01/18/2017 9:39:12 AM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Morgana

I take Tramadol as needed (which is not very often - a prescription lasts me years). It is such a cheap generic it should not be that hard to get it legitimately. I sincerely doubt that a person who harms a pet in order to steal its pain medication is anything other than a waste of skin.


9 posted on 01/18/2017 9:54:36 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Morgana

This is as much a push for government control as it is for anything else -— and is being pushed in most states right now. Faced with an opiod epidemic, politicians are grandstanding to force all forms of doctors, even DVM’s, to report every controlled substance prescription into a government database that tracks each individual patient’s use of all controlled substances. The reality is, the drugs are coming across the border and/or are being produced and sold by the billions by drug companies that are pushing and rewarding MD’s for prescribing them to all their patients.

People hurting their pets to get drugs is just one of their invented scenarios. It came up at a meeting here in Texas when LTC Allen West suggested he could take his bulldog to a few DVM’s on a Saturday and have a big party with the drugs that night. How offensive -— and totally wrong!!! Do they think we DVM’s are completely stupid???

So by the time I take a history, do an exam, x-ray, maybe bloodwork, ultrasound, and/or whatever else I might need to diagnose the problem, those dog-size-dose of pills is going to be pretty expensive. Plus, I’m not going to just treat an animal’s pain without fixing the injury -— clean, suture, wrap, splint, whatever it takes. I guess they think they can just wander in and say “my dog hurt his leg”, ask for tramadol, and then check out with pills in hand. Have you ever had that experience with ANY kind of doctor???

The problem is the pill producers and the pill doctors who push oxycodone, hydrocodone, and tramadol out like candy. I don’t think I ever go to the VA Hospital that they don’t offer me some -— which is probably why so many Veterans are homeless drug addicts out on the streets. And even the PA at the local clinic wanted to send me home on oxycodone for a muscle sprain last week for no good reason. It hurt bad enough that two aspirin or one tylenol took care of it just fine!!!


15 posted on 01/18/2017 10:55:11 AM PST by LTC.Ret
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To: Morgana

Can they also get spayed?


16 posted on 01/18/2017 11:25:08 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Morgana

They’ll even call at night on emergency saying they need the drug for their animal’s pain and then deride one that we don’t care about their pets if we don’t prescribe it.


17 posted on 01/18/2017 11:53:02 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Morgana; All

I would do illegal, unspeakable things to someone who laid a finger on one of my God given fur friends, then bury them in the woods, and sit down to have a coke, a cookie and smile.


21 posted on 01/18/2017 2:05:19 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Morgana
This is horrible. Anyone attempting to harm my cat babies to get some drugs would not need the drugs, because I would slam them into the next world. I am the original Tiger Mom when it comes to my pets.

I recently had to go to the ER to rule out a stroke (it is Bell's palsy). While laying on my gurney in the ER, a patient came in and started shouting, "I'm in pain! I need drugs! I need something for the pain!" over and over again. He was bugging me and I was in a bad enough mood for having no sleep there for 24 hrs. and no appropriate food for over 20 hours. I came this close to going over to him and telling him straight up, "You don't shut up, I'm gonna give you a REASON to need pain killing drugs!" Just before I was going to swing my legs over the side of the gurney to do just that, his dr. came and called him out. Told him he'd gotten 20 previous pain management referrals and had followed up on none of them. The dr. got security to toss this bum out.

Seems there's also a racket of people going from ER to ER claiming they're in pain and need pain meds. They had this guy's number. Fortunately, no innocent animals had to be hurt for this idiot to be thrown out.

22 posted on 01/18/2017 2:36:10 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Morgana

My (allergic to everything with other issues to boot) Shepherd had Tramadol, amongst a million other meds, some permanent, some on a trial basis. I probably still have some of that in our storage now several years after her death (many, many unused drugs left from her).


26 posted on 01/18/2017 7:36:29 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Morgana

Tramadol?

Like William S Burroughs declared about Demerol in his cameo in Drugstore Cowboy

“Trash”


27 posted on 01/18/2017 7:38:30 PM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: Morgana

When I was teaching, [in a very stressful inner city school] we had a colleague who was *always on the edge of losing it*; in other words, she had poor discipline w/ her kids and they were out of control, most of the time.

She took what she she called her *doggie downers*; pills she took that were prescribed for her dog, to relieve his separation anxiety. Weird times.


30 posted on 01/18/2017 7:48:23 PM PST by Daffynition ( "The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Drumbo

A ping to you since I mentioned this thread.


36 posted on 01/21/2017 9:38:12 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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