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Microsoft tells enterprises that Windows 7 isn't fit for purpose
The Inquirer ^ | 17 January 2017 | Chris Merriman

Posted on 01/17/2017 12:24:11 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Sans-Culotte

“I’ve already turned off all updates for Windows 7.”

Ditto. And for all of my customers as well. No updates since the rollup updates came along that include security as well as spyware updates all rolled into a single inconvenient packager.


41 posted on 01/17/2017 2:35:53 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: MayflowerMadam; TBP
“I’ve heard BAD thigns about Windows 10.”

You heard right

When I bot my Oculus I found out that my Windows 7 did a pi$$ poor jub of supporting it.  For starters it's not compatible w/ the latest DirectX that includes 'Direct3D'.   So I took the plunge --I cloned my boot drive (for safety sake) and upgraded to Windows 10 (fwiw, it's still free).

Then I spent an hour or 2 restoring all my privacy issues, removing all the cr@plets and vendorware and it now works PERFECTLY. 

My Oculus is SUPER and sooo many other things are way better than Windows 7.  The only 2 things I used a lot that aren't forward compatable are minesweeper and freecell --but I can use the XP versions ok.   All my spreadsheets, all my browsers, graphics (3 monitors @ 5760 by 1080), games, communications, everything was automatically installed and tweaked during the installation.

I'm one happy camper.

42 posted on 01/17/2017 2:36:17 PM PST by expat_panama
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To: McGruff

“Our large company IT department will resist moving away from Windows 7 for a long time.”

As I suspect will be the case with most.


43 posted on 01/17/2017 2:36:50 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TheNext

https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+pro+retail+copy+price&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

the main issue is to make sure W7 drivers are available for your hardware.


44 posted on 01/17/2017 2:38:20 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Olog-hai; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ...
Windows 7 "UNFIT"?? WTF?? ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

45 posted on 01/17/2017 2:41:30 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I like my Windows 7, but I hate Microsoft with a passion. Their business model is akin to a third world commie dictatorship.


46 posted on 01/17/2017 2:47:30 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: dayglored

It’s perfect for home computers. I only use it to write books and stay in touch with family.

They just don’t want to supply any support or updating for Win7.


47 posted on 01/17/2017 2:50:17 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: Olog-hai
Windows 10 rescued me from a foul installation of Windows 8.1. It has run flawlessly for me since I upgraded back when.

That said, I would never upgrade a Windows 7 computer to Windows 10, just not worth the potential headaches.

48 posted on 01/17/2017 2:55:02 PM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: CyberAnt
> They just don’t want to supply any support or updating for Win7.

I'm certain that if they could have cut off the security updates before Jan 2020, they would have done so already, and then explained that Win7 is no longer secure because the security updates aren't there.

See how it all makes sense? /s

The real reason behind this cr@p is that Win10 conversions have stalled since the "Free Upgrade" offer went away. They're increasing market share by the sales of new Win10-pre-loaded machines, of course. But businesses are slow to convert and for most of them, there's nothing in Win10's features to offset the substantial cost of converting an organization to Win10.

As a result, Microsoft's efforts to convince Windows users to convert to Win10 has, I'm very sad to say, turned the company into a F.U.D. spewing juggernaut. As one who has used, programmed for, and supported every Microsoft operating system release since 2.0, and who used MS-DOS since it first appeared, this is a HUGE disappointment. The company used to be much better than what they've become.

49 posted on 01/17/2017 3:00:02 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Conservative Gato

Sample of my Linux problem:

Laptop has latest Linux Mint. I tried watch some of the recent playoff/sports events. FoxSportsGO and ESPNGO. Every time I try to load, they return an error — Flash Update needed. I go to Adobe.com and it has 4 different Linux flavors for Flash.

I have tried this through the old Komander browser, Cromium, Firefox and Firefox ESR. Same results: update Flash needed.

I did a command line Flash update. Computer says it has the latest Flash, but none of the 4 browsers recognize it.

At that point, my frustration level is enough to close the lid and open the Dell Win7 Laptop, load the website and watch the event.


50 posted on 01/17/2017 3:08:15 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

My Linux Mint Cinnamon 18 IS a picnic. I’m really glad I quit MS products. This OS just works great out of the box.


51 posted on 01/17/2017 3:09:05 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: dayglored

Well, nobody from Microsoft has sent me any information re dumping my Win7. My system is working fine.


52 posted on 01/17/2017 3:11:32 PM PST by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: TomGuy

Yeah, I can’t wait for Adobe Flash Player to be history and replaced with HTML5. Youtube is already HTML5 but not sure how long it takes the others to convert. Hopefully it won’t be long.

That is one issue in Linux and that is they use an older version of Flash Player so some sites see it as it needs updated even though it has been updated for that version.

The only way to properly watch Flash Player in Linux (on some sites, not all are like that) is to use the regular Google Chrome browser download and install for Linux, not Chromium. The regular Google Chrome browser for Linux has it’s own built-in Flash Player that is the most recent with all other Adobe Flash Player programs.

The only downside to using the regular Google Chrome browser is you have to have a 64-bit system because Google did away with the 32-bit Google Chrome browser. If your Linux Mint is 64-bit you are OK and go to Google and download (just download and don’t install from Google because that doesn’t work sometimes) Google Chrome for Debian and install it with your package installer or open it with the Software Center and it might be able to install it for you.

If you are using 32-bit Linux Mint but your system will handle a 64-bit OS, you can install Linux Mint 64-bit and you can get the latest version of Google Chrome for Linux. Lately, I’ve been only upgrading 64bit systems to Linux or I tell them they can have some problems with Flash Player.

CGato


53 posted on 01/17/2017 3:24:57 PM PST by Conservative Gato
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To: BlueLancer

I went from Windows to OS X. I was tired of update game and broken drivers. OS X is UNIX under the hood but with a very good GUI on top. It works. If you want to tinker under the hood, you can, if not, no worries.


54 posted on 01/17/2017 3:30:21 PM PST by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Inyo-Mono; Olog-hai; Signalman; Cold Heart; Sans-Culotte; Flavious_Maximus; glasseye; wally_bert; ..
I have two computers at home that I use for work and both have Windows 7. I love it. They switched over to Windows 10 on all the computers at the office last year and have had nothing but problems ever since (automatically updating in the middle of the work day, crashing for no reason, not able to use certain critical programs, etc.).

I 𝑳𝑶𝑽𝑬 Windows 10!

I don't have it on any of my machines, but my friend/next door neighbor's new PC got a Win 10 force-load last spring.

Whenever the Win 10 updates break his machine, I get to swoop in and be The Computer Hero.

Last week, an update croaked his Ethernet NIC. We accomplished some needed computer hardware changes to enable a fast swap between his desktop box and his travel laptop, and the actual NIC fix only took 15 minutes after I got some time to research it.

He and his wife both love me. 😀

55 posted on 01/17/2017 3:39:01 PM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: TomGuy
I did a command line Flash update. Computer says it has the latest Flash, but none of the 4 browsers recognize it.

I've noticed that it's difficult to get a Linux installation to play nice with Internet video.

56 posted on 01/17/2017 3:40:42 PM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: Conservative Gato; TomGuy
Thanks for that info, Gato. 😀
57 posted on 01/17/2017 3:42:55 PM PST by kiryandil (Will Hillary's BrownShirt Media thugs demand that The Deplorables all wear six-pointed Orange Stars?)
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To: dayglored

Not anymore. It’s too easy to get PWN3D these days.


58 posted on 01/17/2017 3:57:48 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Conservative Gato

Okay.

I tried to get Google Chrome and it sent me to Chromium — and said I was already running the latest.

I did not see a link to download Chrome. I will check to see if I can just download it.

My Linux is 64-bit.


59 posted on 01/17/2017 4:04:55 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Dalberg-Acton

My Linux Mint Cinnamon 18 IS a picnic. I’m really glad I quit MS products. This OS just works great out of the box.

Agreed and with its reduced need for system resources it can give new life to an older machine. I am running it on a Dell Inspiron 6000 (single core Intel processor, 1.7 Ghz, 2 GB dram.


60 posted on 01/17/2017 5:27:39 PM PST by bytesmith
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