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Microsoft tells enterprises that Windows 7 isn't fit for purpose
The Inquirer ^ | 17 January 2017 | Chris Merriman

Posted on 01/17/2017 12:24:11 PM PST by Olog-hai

It’s no huge secret that we don’t hold Microsoft’s methods of selling products in high regard. Updategate was a complete shower, and with that over, we appear to have moved into the scaremongering phase of the operation based on comments from the company’s German operation.

In a blog post on Technet, we’re warned that Windows 7 “only” has three years of updates left, and even then it can’t hold a candle to Windows 10 in terms of enterprise features and security. Tell that to the 40+ percent of enterprises still using it. […]

Although it would be a foolhardy business that uses Windows Vista, it seems that Microsoft is keeping that rather important end-of-life (in three months) on the down-low as they’re not going to make as much money from it; and despite Windows XP having a near ten percent market share made up of some of the most vulnerable organizations like police and government, the Redmond machine is determined to go after the low-hanging fruit. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; obsolescence; securityupdates; windows; windows10; windows7; windowspinglist
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To: xzins

“I’m still amazed that Microsoft can’t come up with a browser that doesn’t shut down your computer when it hits a site with advertisements.”

My IE doesn’t shut down my computer.


21 posted on 01/17/2017 1:00:13 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: bgill
"I like Windows 7 except it won’t let me play XP games..."

I kept my last laptop as an XP machine ... I never connect it to the web. It's just to play my old XP games on ...

The laptop before that one is a dedicated MS-DOS machine. I've still got a couple of games that I've never been able to play on anything else.

When it becomes unsafe to put my Windows 7 machine on the net, I'll pull it off and it will become my Windows 7 game machine, along with having copies of all of my ebooks on it for reading.

I don't really know where I'm going to go after Windows 7. I really REALLY don't want to go to Windows 10. But I'm not sure that I want to go to Linux or OSX ... I don't have the patience anymore to play with all of the machine settings and individual drivers and programs.

I really am not a Luddite, but I just want something that I can turn on and use without having to fiddle with.

As Oddball said about fixing the tank, "Oh, man, I just ride in 'em. I don't know what makes 'em work."

22 posted on 01/17/2017 1:04:12 PM PST by BlueLancer ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." Winston Churchill)
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To: TheNext
"How do you burn or buy an official copy of Win7 or Win8??"

You can still buy them on Amazon or, if you trust it, on eBay.

23 posted on 01/17/2017 1:05:46 PM PST by BlueLancer ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." Winston Churchill)
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To: Olog-hai

I have 7 and like it a lot. If you have a very new computer, W10 will be fine. If your peripherals are more than a few years old (meaning let’s say 3-4 years) they will for the most part be rendered useless as there are no drivers available for (surprising numbers of) them.


24 posted on 01/17/2017 1:06:11 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: TheNext

“How do you burn or buy an official copy of Win7 or Win8??”

I’m sure you could buy a copy on Amazon or at a Fry’s Electronics or equivalent = giant electronics store. Maybe even a Best Buy.


25 posted on 01/17/2017 1:07:35 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Olog-hai

I have two computers at home that I use for work and both have Windows 7. I love it. They switched over to Windows 10 on all the computers at the office last year and have had nothing but problems ever since (automatically updating in the middle of the work day, crashing for no reason, not able to use certain critical programs, etc.).


26 posted on 01/17/2017 1:08:19 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: TBP

“I’ve heard BAD thigns about Windows 10.”

You heard right. Although, “BAD” is an understatement. It’s the worst!


27 posted on 01/17/2017 1:11:17 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (If you think the party that freed the slaves are the racist ones, you probably are a liberal.)
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To: Cold Heart

“Windows 7 is the only thing that has kept me with Microsoft. When it goes so do I.”

Same here. After more than 30 years loosely associated that company, I will start going Linux. Microsoft costs are becoming prohibitive, and their phone-home invasion of intellectual property rights is not acceptable.


28 posted on 01/17/2017 1:14:01 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Olog-hai

I still use Windows 7 on 4 office desktops. The only problem I encountered was a Microsoft update replaced my sound card drivers and crashed them all at the same time. Gave me the blue screen of death and could not even start in safe mode.

Ended up using a flash drive with Lennox to fix it.


29 posted on 01/17/2017 1:23:01 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Olog-hai
Win10 may have features and security, but it lacks usability.

Win10 was designed for touchscreen computing. Many users still use keyboards — for productivity reasons.

MS lost sight of what customers need. They are pushing a lemon and calling it the grandest thing since sliced bread. They are using the old tactics they used with VISTA.

Features — unless they enhance usability — are useless. Take the ribbon menuing, for example.

30 posted on 01/17/2017 1:45:59 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Olog-hai

I’m using Win 7 with all MSFT updates turned off.

Very happy.


31 posted on 01/17/2017 1:46:45 PM PST by upchuck (... I'm beyond elated to bid him a permanent farewell. ~ Peter Heck -- peterheck.com)
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To: Olog-hai

I keep win 7 for my engineering computers. I have one laptop with windows 10. It was a terrible transition that cost me close to $10k in forced upgrades and lost work.

Windows 10 gives you the wonderful choice of, “do you want to upgrade now or in 5 minutes?”

No choice. I don’t know if they finally got rid of that but it’s a pain in the ass when I have to get ready for a presentation or finish a presentation when I have to wait for some stupid download and if you don’t have wifi access you’re screwed.

I still have my CNC and inspection machines running on XP computers that have been rock solid.


32 posted on 01/17/2017 1:52:29 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Olog-hai
Get rid of Cortana. Stop the forced updates. Quit changing the look of Windows such as the Start menu on a whim. Microsoft could add themes instead of making the change for all of us. Stop the fricking spying!
That will fix much of Windows 10 problems. BTW the fixes listed for Cortana do not fix Cortana. Another update will re-enable all the problems you had before the "fix". The fix is to go back to Windows 7.
Fix Cortana issues after Windows 10 Anniversary Update
Windows 10 Anniversary Update causing crashes and system freezes

ping
33 posted on 01/17/2017 1:55:17 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: glasseye

re: Linux or OS.

Linux is no picnic. It is still a hobbyist production. I bought a Linux laptop last year. No manual or instructions. Dozens of ‘how to install’ videos online, but few ‘how to use’ or ‘how to do’ videos. It still operates from a command line. So far, it is more frustrating than Windows. It reminds me of Unix and MS-DOS from 30 years ago.

Linux is okay for basic web browsing, etc.


34 posted on 01/17/2017 1:56:46 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TheNext
Win 7 at Newegg.
35 posted on 01/17/2017 1:57:00 PM PST by upchuck (... I'm beyond elated to bid him a permanent farewell. ~ Peter Heck -- peterheck.com)
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To: TheNext

#14 You can buy Windows 7 at Amazon or Ebay.
Example from Amazon: Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder DVD 1 Pack (New Packaging)
http://tinyurl.com/zra46j3


36 posted on 01/17/2017 1:59:46 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: TomGuy
Considering that tens or hundreds of millions of people use various versions of Linux, it is astounding that you evidently don;t know a single person who uses it, who could tell you how easy it is to install and assist doing so.

For most people, getting a copy of Ubuntu Linux is quite easy (download from website using current Windows system and then install, or get a CD/DVD/USB with Linux operating system, or find a Linux Users Group meeting). Many of us would be happy to help.

There are tens of thousands of programs available for free download after installation, and there's nothing I do on windows that I can't do on Linux with the exception of various proprietary programs written for Windows and not for Apple/Linux/etc. But that's not a limitation of Apple or Linux!

37 posted on 01/17/2017 2:01:32 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I lost peripherals and software programs from Win98 to XP. Same going from XP to WIN7.

I did test Win10 on an extra hard drive and has similar losses.


38 posted on 01/17/2017 2:05:46 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Olog-hai

HAHA! They have an anti-adblocker notice, and effect that obscures their content if an adblocker is in effect.


39 posted on 01/17/2017 2:25:25 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: TomGuy
Linux is no picnic. It is still a hobbyist production. I bought a Linux laptop last year. No manual or instructions. Dozens of ‘how to install’ videos online, but few ‘how to use’ or ‘how to do’ videos. It still operates from a command line. So far, it is more frustrating than Windows. It reminds me of Unix and MS-DOS from 30 years ago. Linux is okay for basic web browsing, etc.

Not sure what flavor of Linux you have or how old but most recent flavors of Linux have good GUI's so you don't have to run anything from a command line unless you want to. Like someone else pointed out Ubuntu works great out of the box but so does Mint. All you have to do is update them once in awhile and all updates for all programs and the OS come through one channel which makes it so much easier to update everything.

For people starting on Linux, I like to install the latest Long-Term-Service version of Lubuntu on their machines. It's just a lighter desktop version of Ubuntu that runs a similar desktop environment to Windows XP/7 so it's easier for people to transition to Linux. And like what someone else posted there are so many free programs to download that you can almost do anything in Linux that you can do in Windows. Once I've installed Lubuntu for family/friends, and they keep them updated, I rarely hear back from them and it's usually only minor issues.

CGato

40 posted on 01/17/2017 2:32:23 PM PST by Conservative Gato
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