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Crewman in Colombia plane crash... ‘I survived because I followed safety protocols’
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | Wednesday, November 30, 2016, 10:47 AM | stephen rex brown

Posted on 11/30/2016 9:09:26 AM PST by BenLurkin

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One of the five survivors of the plane crash in Colombia that killed 71 — most of them belonging to a Brazilian soccer team — said he dodged death because he followed safety instructions.

Crew member Erwin Tumiri said that as many passengers panicked, he followed the guidelines repeated at the beginning of every flight.

“I survived because I followed safety protocols. Before the crash, many got out of their seats and started to scream,” Tumiri said, according to Latin American news outlet NTN.

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The pilots on the British Aerospace 146 aircraft declared an emergency due to a possible electrical failure, Rionegro airport spokeswoman Ana Lucia Perez Mesa said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: crash; planecrash; survivors
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To: Scythian_Reborn

My guess is some FReepers believe it is "gallows humor" or something.
Innocent people being tragically killed through no fault their own is not humorous to me, either.

61 posted on 11/30/2016 10:10:55 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Pollster1

You miss the joke. The flight attendant tells the passengers “assume crash positions” and *then* they arrange themselves.


62 posted on 11/30/2016 10:11:52 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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To: TexasGunLover

Wrong, I’m at the wheel, big difference between flying. I don’t care what you drum up via stats, I won’t die in a plane because I’m not flying, period.


63 posted on 11/30/2016 10:18:50 AM PST by Scythian_Reborn
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Statistically speaking, think of how many of thousands of flights happen everyday without incident. Yes, there are millions of cars on the road, but they are way more accidents every day in an auto.


64 posted on 11/30/2016 10:34:49 AM PST by ripnbang
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To: BenLurkin

All three of the fatalities among the passengers if Asiana 214 at SFO were Chinese girls who did not have their seatbelts buckled.


65 posted on 11/30/2016 10:37:18 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: safeasthebanks

Agreed. Soccer fans belong over at DU.


66 posted on 11/30/2016 10:38:58 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Not to create any animosity on this thread but discussing also my feelings about flying i will say this, i took a vacation to Australia last year, first leg was from Alaska to Honolulu on a 737, cramped and uncomfortable for a 6 plus hour flight, its a small plane, it bounces around too much, other legs going and coming back were on a 787, very very nice, just ignore the flapping wings! And on a Hawaiian A330 from Brisbane to Honolulu, best service! Almost like 1st Class.

But the Alaska 737 was again an uncomfortable bouncy plane back to Anchorage, if i travel again to Hawaii its going to be to Seattle first, i can handle a 3.5 hour flight, and from Seattle to Honolulu on Hawaiian, same flight time of around 6 hours. On the A330 widebody. So far ONLY Alaska flies from Anchorage to Honolulu, good service but they only use the 737, which i just cannot stand on a long haul. Claustrophobic! Its a narrow body, jammed packed like sardines in a toothpaste tube.


67 posted on 11/30/2016 10:39:50 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (MAGA)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Didn’t one get run over by the emergency vehicle, lost in the foam?


68 posted on 11/30/2016 10:41:35 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (MAGA)
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To: Blue Jays

Based upon the pics, those unfortunate people were doomed.


Yep. Except they were not. Some of them survived.

My comment was just in the vein of, “follow protocol and you might live. Run around screaming and you’re gonna die.” i.e. his luck was augmented by his following protocol. If he had not done that, he would not have been “lucky”.


69 posted on 11/30/2016 10:49:15 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: BenLurkin

Did you say something, little pussy willow?

Nope, didn’t think so.

Don’t bother responding, I’m not reading it.


70 posted on 11/30/2016 10:50:50 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: shhrubbery!

All went fine, but I had a few minutes of concern when the plane started its descent. Suddenly it seemed as if all power had been cut to the engines. The plane was totally silent, and (from my point of view) we didn’t even seem to be moving. Of course we were moving, but it was eerie. Just as if the plane were floating, 30,000 ft up in the atmosphere

If you hadn’t flown in 30 years. It may have been your first time in an airliner with newer, larger, more fuel efficient engines. They are much quieter than older engines. When it got quiet, it was likely because the pilot pulled the throttles back to idle power for the descent.


71 posted on 11/30/2016 10:57:20 AM PST by utahb52
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To: safeasthebanks

That’s a shame, because you just earned the “Butthurt Loser of the Day” award.

And now you’ll never know.


72 posted on 11/30/2016 10:58:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

If you Want to see luck that puts Koepcke well into the shade get ahold of a title called :Into The Silk-The story of the Caterpillar Club. (And I MEAN well into the shade).


73 posted on 11/30/2016 11:01:21 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: safeasthebanks

I thought it was funny. :-)

As Ricky Nelson says, You have to please yourself. ;-)


74 posted on 11/30/2016 11:02:47 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

My prediction is evidence will show the survivors to all be in very close proximity to each other and concentrated in "least damaged" section of aircraft.
If one was seated in the areas that took the brunt of the crash...it wouldn't matter if one was in a new titanium seat with carbon fiber and kevlar restraints.

I am a supporter of seat belts. I support safety efforts and protocols.
My own uncle survived a commercial jetliner crash that grievously injured many...so I get it.
In this particular situation, if one was seated in the "wrong" section of the airliner, they were totally doomed.

75 posted on 11/30/2016 11:02:50 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Blue Jays

If one was seated in the areas that took the brunt of the crash...it wouldn’t matter if one was in a new titanium seat with carbon fiber and kevlar restraints.


Makes sense.

My argument is along the lines of, “if you want to win the lotto, you have to buy a ticket. Following protocol is “buying a ticket”.

And a very popular phrase in success training is, “luck is when opportunity meets preparedness.” i.e. it takes more than just being at the right place at the right time (which this guy was). It also takes being prepared. i.e. following protocol. It enhances your chances of being “lucky”.


76 posted on 11/30/2016 11:05:03 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Yes, but she originally got thrown from the plane, because she didn’t have her sestbelt fastened.


77 posted on 11/30/2016 11:08:36 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: BenLurkin

I have read that in crashes with only a handful of survivors, the common denominator is that the survivors figured out how to evacuate before hand (such as during the pre-flight safety demonstration), then retained that knowledge and put it to use when needed.

Obviously, most if not all people will be killed on impact. But sometimes, not. And those who are left alive will either succumb to smoke inhalation while they sit immobilized by fright, or they’ll get up and move towards the exits.


78 posted on 11/30/2016 11:12:25 AM PST by bus man (Loose Lips Sink Ships)
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To: Mr. Douglas

We are likely in agreement on virtually all points.

For example, my belt remains buckled while flying, except if using lavatory.
On one flight we hit an air pocket that knocked my rowmate's head full-force into the overhead luggage bin.
I mean it really slammed him (and other unbelted folks) very hard.

The only thing it did to me was jar me awake and toss the magazine out of my lap.

79 posted on 11/30/2016 11:15:29 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Mr. Douglas

“I thought it was funny.”

71 people died. May want to think again.


80 posted on 11/30/2016 11:17:06 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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